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re: How tough is it to become a medical doctor?

Posted on 4/27/20 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 7:53 pm to
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Just practice typing really quickly and never making eye contact with or touching a patient.

Thank your insurance company for this type of encounter.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:00 pm to
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As far as becoming an MD from everyone I know that became doctors, it isn't very hard. I know my opinion of doctors changed greatly after seeing the folks I went to school with (HS and undergrad) become doctors.


This is a lie.

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I know plenty folks who are not that intelligent become MDs and some with very complex specialties.


Lie #2. The first 2 years of medical school are overwhelming in terms of memorization. We had about a dozen people flunk out of medical school - all of who had never made a B in their life before medical school.

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The way I look at it as long as you are average intelligence and are willing to put in the effort and put yourself into the financial situation (debt, foregoing pay for a while) you can become a MD.


Average intelligence (IQ of 100) will not get you into medical school.

I agree that physicians are not the highest IQ of any profession in the world. But MD IQ’s are not average. They are very high.

Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3965 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:34 pm to
Avg professor 95-130 (second highest)
Doctors 107-135 +

Doctors are the highest iq in many studies....and it is just the tip....the self discipline, drive and confidence is impressive in the young adults I have watched grow up and become doctors....
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
5133 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:42 pm to
As a RN for 35 years,some of the Drs. I knew were so smart it was astounding.Also knew some Drs. that were so dumb it was also astounding,couldn’t believe they actually went to medical school.
Same way with nurses,though.
Something I’ve always wondered about- do surgeons that go into the really difficult areas such as pediatric heart surgery or reattaching body parts have to take manual dexterity tests before they are accepted into a residency ?
Posted by jose
Member since Feb 2009
29763 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:53 pm to
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I know my opinion of doctors changed greatly after seeing the folks I went to school with (HS and undergrad) become doctors.


If you ask some of the people I went to HS and undergrad with, they may tell you the same thing.

But once I was accepted, it lit a fire under my arse to get my shite together.

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The biggest correlation to becoming a doctor is not intelligence but rather how willing you are to go into debt and prolong your education before making money. The next factor is how much you are willing to work at it. Intelligence would actually be far down the list.


I think the biggest factor that goes into someone passing or failing medical school is how bad they will work to get it. I literally did not take multiple days off at time from studying. The most i ever took off was the afternoons of a test day. Then it was right back to it till midnight the next night. It is all about hard work.
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:08 pm to
Even if you are a true certified Mensa genius, it is still difficult.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30133 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:07 am to
Damn dude, you have a photographic memory or some shite because I didn’t even remember that thread. I’m amazed you can find it again. I’m sure you’re doing very well in med school because first and second year are a lot of rote memorization.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11936 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:16 am to
If you don't already know, it is too late for you
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64393 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:35 am to
Get a job in a hospital as a scribe at a hospital associated with a Med School. Get 1 or 2 of your rec letters from the MDs there. At Tulane most scribes get in to Med School eventually
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10955 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:59 am to
Guy I grew up with went to Caribbean Med school. Had trouble finding a good job an eventually quit and works at his dads music store now.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3767 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:00 am to
Ask any doctor. The true IQ test is Step 1.

It has humbled many medical students who made it through the application process based on extracurriculars, connections, and such but who just didn't have the lower threshold cognitive abilities.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:10 am to
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I’m sure you’re doing very well in med school because first and second year are a lot of rote memorization.




I'm actually doing terribly in those sections of courses which require a lot of memorization. Probably because I've never had to learn how to memorize things because I just remembered them, but it is impossible to just read something in medical school and remember it, which is pretty much how I remember everything else I read. I'm doing way better on things based on concepts, in which I can place information based on frameworks I understand, if that makes sense. I actually realized I remember things much better based on conceptual understanding and placing details into that pre-built framework. I've struggled mightily on the portions of the courses which are like "here are 50 medications, know everything about them." There was one portion of pharmacology where we had to know something like 150 medications, their MOA, their adverse effects, their route of administration, when it was first-line or second-line or whatever and their method of clearance from the body. And we had effectively ten days to learn it. I, along with everyone else in the class, struggled terribly with that. Honestly, I thought it was an idiotic way of teaching, because we had that course before we had micro or path, and we basically understood nothing of what we memorized. And not surprisingly, most of us have forgotten the material completely.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7124 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:49 am to
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What’s it like being so high up there?


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