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re: How Smart is OT?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:11 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:11 pm to fr33manator
quote:
You? You’re just frickin dumb
Im dumb because I scored a 27?
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:12 pm to fr33manator
quote:
You want to measure “smarts” on some metric?
I’m sorry you got a 19 on the ACT.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:14 pm to AUstar
But can you kick my arse? No way baw.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:15 pm to Hou_Lawyer
1521
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:16 pm to AUstar
I scored a 31 on the ACT in 1985 when it was still racist.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:16 pm to AUstar
33 ACT in 1999
1430 on SAT in 1999
No GRE
1430 on SAT in 1999
No GRE
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:17 pm to AUstar
White kid at Paul Breaux smart
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:21 pm to AUstar
30 on ACT 1977
1290 on SAT, also 1977 - taken the Saturday morning after Homecoming my Sr year, so I was hungover as hell
1290 on SAT, also 1977 - taken the Saturday morning after Homecoming my Sr year, so I was hungover as hell
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:22 pm to OWLFAN86
Smarter than the avg bear!
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:25 pm to AUstar
Took ACT 3 times:
19: Fall 1996 (Saturday morning at 9am hungover AF after homecoming)
27: Early 1997
30: Fall 1997
19: Fall 1996 (Saturday morning at 9am hungover AF after homecoming)
27: Early 1997
30: Fall 1997
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:26 pm to AUstar
scoring high on the ACT isn't a benchmark for high intelligence
i breezed through engineering school after only scoring a 23 on the ACT, i'm just not a fast reader, great at math though
i breezed through engineering school after only scoring a 23 on the ACT, i'm just not a fast reader, great at math though
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:27 pm to AUstar
Early 90s
26 ACT in 11th grade
27 ACT in 12th--hungover following a night of partying, napping between test sections.
GRE was way more than I needed for grad school--I think they required a combined 900 on 2 sections, and I was at 1,500 combined for those sections. It has been a while though, and I've slept since then.
LSAT wasn't getting me into Harvard or Yale--honestly don't remember my score. But, with my grad school GPA it was plenty enough for LSU to take my money.
So, yeah, pretty dumb. But I can climb a mean telephone pole.
26 ACT in 11th grade
27 ACT in 12th--hungover following a night of partying, napping between test sections.
GRE was way more than I needed for grad school--I think they required a combined 900 on 2 sections, and I was at 1,500 combined for those sections. It has been a while though, and I've slept since then.
LSAT wasn't getting me into Harvard or Yale--honestly don't remember my score. But, with my grad school GPA it was plenty enough for LSU to take my money.
So, yeah, pretty dumb. But I can climb a mean telephone pole.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:28 pm to AUstar
Whatever the MENSA IQ is, I'm 2 points dumber than that.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:37 pm to AUstar
I got a 37 on the ACT. I would've gone to MIT, but they just didn't have enough rigor for me.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:46 pm to FearlessFreep
Congratulations to FearlessFreep and Rebel. Two true Mensa candidates on the OT. Both of you qualify for Mensa and can join right now with your scores. (The scores in my OP came directly from Mensa's website). Of course, the value of being a member is dubious, but if you like to play scrabble and drink beer with other nerds, you can certainly sign-up and do so.
In case the rest of the board hasn't figured it out: The ACT and SAT used to be IQ tests. They didn't call it that, but it's definitely what they were (and the test companies knew it). Mensa knows it, too.
Sometime around 1990 it became politically incorrect to select college applicants based on IQ alone, so they changed the tests to better reflect prior knowledge and study habits. People didn't appreciate the slacker, class ditching kid scoring a 34 (higher than the valedictorian) and getting scholarship offers when he didn't give a shite about school. (I think all of us have stories about C students or slackers scoring really high on the ACT/SAT). Colleges had a hard time with that. "Hey, Jim, this kid has an IQ of 140 but doesn't give a shite about school. Do we give him a scholly or not?"
The second reason they changed the tests is because certain demographics traditionally scored lower and that didn't "look pretty." (Changing the tests hasn't helped much in that regard, actually).
In case the rest of the board hasn't figured it out: The ACT and SAT used to be IQ tests. They didn't call it that, but it's definitely what they were (and the test companies knew it). Mensa knows it, too.
Sometime around 1990 it became politically incorrect to select college applicants based on IQ alone, so they changed the tests to better reflect prior knowledge and study habits. People didn't appreciate the slacker, class ditching kid scoring a 34 (higher than the valedictorian) and getting scholarship offers when he didn't give a shite about school. (I think all of us have stories about C students or slackers scoring really high on the ACT/SAT). Colleges had a hard time with that. "Hey, Jim, this kid has an IQ of 140 but doesn't give a shite about school. Do we give him a scholly or not?"
The second reason they changed the tests is because certain demographics traditionally scored lower and that didn't "look pretty." (Changing the tests hasn't helped much in that regard, actually).
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:47 pm to dbeck
I claim to be 6'-5", but know I was only 6'-4 and 3/4" about 30 years ago. I'm sure I've shrunk in height over the years. I'll have to live with that OT shame ...
Test scores can be very arbitrary. They aren't always indicative of success.
Back when you just "took the test" with no special time considerations for dyslexia or ADD or whatever, I took the GMAT with a friend (c. 1988). He was a terrific student and had good grades in undergraduate school. Really smart, but also spent a lot of time in his books.
I can read fast with good comprehension and am quick at arithmatic. I memory serves me correctly, I answered 206 out of 210 questions on the GMAT, and that was because I truly had no clue what the correct answer to those four questions were.
However, after taking the test, I was sure I needed to find a job. A mediocre GMAT score, in addition to my mediocre grades, would certainly preclude any hope of being admitted to any MBA program.
After the test, we went to his house because he had a swimming pool. Add in a home cooked meal (by his PhD mother) and a bunch of cold beers, it sounded like a brilliant idea.
During the course of the evening with both of us commiserating about the test, his mother mentioned that my friend was dyslexic. I was was shocked. I knew he couldn't spell for shite and had lousy handwriting, but I was completely unaware that there was a legitimate reason.
I ended up scoring over 300 points higher than him on the GMAT (when scores were ~300 - 800, and 720 was like a 98 or 99th percentile score), but I had new found respect for a good friend that I had know for years, but never acknowledged his disability.
TL,DR - Don't judge a person only by his or her test score.
Test scores can be very arbitrary. They aren't always indicative of success.
Back when you just "took the test" with no special time considerations for dyslexia or ADD or whatever, I took the GMAT with a friend (c. 1988). He was a terrific student and had good grades in undergraduate school. Really smart, but also spent a lot of time in his books.
I can read fast with good comprehension and am quick at arithmatic. I memory serves me correctly, I answered 206 out of 210 questions on the GMAT, and that was because I truly had no clue what the correct answer to those four questions were.
However, after taking the test, I was sure I needed to find a job. A mediocre GMAT score, in addition to my mediocre grades, would certainly preclude any hope of being admitted to any MBA program.
After the test, we went to his house because he had a swimming pool. Add in a home cooked meal (by his PhD mother) and a bunch of cold beers, it sounded like a brilliant idea.
During the course of the evening with both of us commiserating about the test, his mother mentioned that my friend was dyslexic. I was was shocked. I knew he couldn't spell for shite and had lousy handwriting, but I was completely unaware that there was a legitimate reason.
I ended up scoring over 300 points higher than him on the GMAT (when scores were ~300 - 800, and 720 was like a 98 or 99th percentile score), but I had new found respect for a good friend that I had know for years, but never acknowledged his disability.
TL,DR - Don't judge a person only by his or her test score.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:48 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Random comment in response to that, I know a guy that was a frickin genius, the only white guy in a sea of Asians winning national math competitions. Didn’t get into MIT undergrad, did his PhD there though. Undergrad admissions to elite schools are more about checking boxes than actual intelligence, if you aren’t a minority or a donor family and weren’t the president of the Save the Whales club in high school, good luck.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:58 pm to TheWalrus
quote:
Undergrad admissions to elite schools are more about checking boxes than actual intelligence, if you aren’t a minority or a donor family and weren’t the president of the Save the Whales club in high school, good luck.
This is very true as the "pay for play" involving Lori Loughlin proved. Don't think this doesn't go on all the time around the country. Rich people get their kids into elite schools no matter if they deserve the spot or not.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 11:03 pm to AUstar
What's fricking new? Haven't rich people always gotten their kids into good schools?
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