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re: How much do partners at Big 4 Accounting Firms make?

Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:24 am to
Posted by jordan21210
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:24 am to
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this exactly

Like I said, your child is doing it right. Tell them make damn sure to get the CPA as early as they can and just work hard...even if the hours suck, it pays in the end. A CPA + big 4 experience opens the door to six figure salaries in nearly every industry and I wish I had the drive and awareness to do it myself when I was finishing college.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:29 am to
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Total comp including benefits will probably total 6 figures, which sounds great, but the location is important context.

Do the Big4 offer incentive comp for bringing in new business. Both of my firms would give 10% of the first 3-5 years collections. Bringing in a few big clients could expedite the 6 figure comp packages. Plus the regional firm wanted proof that you could generate business before considering partnership.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 8:30 am
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:29 am to
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Yeah, the common career path now seems to be get a bachelors and maybe masters, internship at Big 4 while studying for CPA, pass CPA, start full time Big 4, put in 5 years, then peace out for a controller, banking, or smaller firm position. My little brother is Big 4 and doesn’t mind it, but I know he won’t be there long term. Hours are nuts.
Posted by GamerGod
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:31 am to
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Like I said, your child is doing it right. Tell them make damn sure to get the CPA as early as they can and just work hard...even if the hours suck, it pays in the end. A CPA + big 4 experience opens the door to six figure salaries in nearly every industry and I wish I had the drive and awareness to do it myself when I was finishing college.
thanks, during the internship the hours were crazy but the money in a weeks time was sick because of the hours they let them have and my child is a go getter, has a good IQ and loves money lol...
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 8:33 am
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:34 am to
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Do the Big4 offer incentive comp for bringing in new business. Both of my firms would give 10% of the first 3-5 years collections. Bringing in a few big clients could expedite the 6 figure comp packages.

I’m sure they do, but you’d have to be incredibly well connected to bring in a client a Big 4 firm wants to take as a 1st to 3rd year staff.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:41 am to
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I’m sure they do, but you’d have to be incredibly well connected to bring in a client a Big 4 firm wants to take as a 1st to 3rd year staff.
This. I have big 4 experience in audit and almost all of the private companies I've worked on do billions of dollars in revenue a year. So if a 23 year old can bring in that kind of business, more power to them.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:44 am to
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50-55 hours a week expectations like it’s nothing

That really is nothing
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24834 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:46 am to
Worked at a big 4 for 5 years and you couldn’t pay me enough to work in that miserable place my entire life.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9765 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:46 am to
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Worked at a big 4 for 5 years and you couldn’t pay me enough to work in that miserable place my entire life.


+1

ETA: They lay the brainwashing on thick while in school though. Have you thinking you will fail at life if you don't go Big 4 out of school.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:01 am to
My friend, a year before he made partner with PwC (this was in 2017), told me the lowest paid partner in the company made $750,000.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:41 am to
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The doctor money is big 4 partners only (with a few exceptions, unless you are talking GP/family medicine doctor


Manager level at big 4 can make pretty close to family med salary if you include bonus. 180k-220k isn’t unheard of these days. Likely more than that if they are about to be an SM. Most are M level in the 30s, moving onto SM before 40 and MD or partner in mid to late 40s. Mandatory requirement is different at all firms, but usually around 60.

By comparison, Family Med doctors makes around 200k-250k on the gulf coast.

To the OP, 60K to start right out of college is a bit low for Big 4, but I am less familiar with the audit and CPA career paths than advisory. It’s a great career path starting out either way, and the benefits are usually awesome. After a few years, they are eligible for bonuses which can be substantial in good years.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 9:53 am
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:43 am to
How much can they bench?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:50 am to
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Depends on the market and tenure, but $250k to $2-3m.


I worked for Big 4 and this was my estimate as well. By the way, I was never at any point jealous of their job. They may make a ton but they still work so much
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:07 am to
B4 people work an ungodly amount of hours from staff all the way up to partner. It's a great gig for work-aholics. Most people can't hack it long term, though. They do their 2-5 years and get the hell out. It's a hard gig in terms of white collar jobs, but it opens a lot of doors.

Industry hours are more relaxed, but you are still putting in time around monthly close, quarter close, budget season, and audit season. Anyone interested in a standard 40 hour work week shouldn't be pursuing a career in accouting. At the end of the day, accounting is overhead, so those departments are usually run pretty thin.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12626 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:18 am to
The road to Partnership in a Big Four is paved with indentured servitude and occult ideology.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21656 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:20 am to
EY is a grind but you can make big money if you make partner.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4991 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:26 am to
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Manager level at big 4 can make pretty close to family med salary if you include bonus. 180k-220k isn’t unheard of these days.


This seems grossly overstated unless it's specifically for advisory not audit and in high cost of living areas.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:05 am to
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This seems grossly overstated unless it's specifically for advisory not audit and in high cost of living areas.


It’s for advisory, and it’s not overstated at all. Audit isn’t that far off of though.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:09 am to
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Manager level at big 4 can make pretty close to family med salary if you include bonus. 180k-220k isn’t unheard of these days.


Can’t speak for NYC, Seattle, Bay Area markets, but that is not what tax and audit managers are making in 99% of offices. Honestly those numbers aren’t even close.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71039 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:10 am to
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This is interesting...so you have to ‘buy in’ to be a partner at a publicly traded company?


I hope you stopped talking after the question on how much money they are going to make.
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