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re: How many years until we have multi-level farming?
Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:11 am to bigolecatfish
Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:11 am to bigolecatfish
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Cotton numbers look awful no doubt, so your plan is to grow more acres of cotton using an even more expensive growing system? Gosh, farming is probably easy.
Besides the cotton numbers looking bad, None of this post reflects anything that I posted.
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We need to figure out how to make money with farming, without raising consumer prices too much. We also need to do this without using all of our available land.
It seems you skipped over all of this. If you don't think any of this is possible, then just bow out of this thread.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 12:14 am
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:13 am to LakeViewLSU
Disney is all over this already
Living with the Land ride
Living with the Land ride
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:01 am to LakeViewLSU
Once we turn the rain forest into a big farm, we'll have enough food for everyone.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 3:52 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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genetic modification
ahhhhhh
People are so dumb, probably read on facebook gmos are as bad as vaccines.
Truth is, gmo's are a big step to solving world hunger.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:15 am to LakeViewLSU
I don't think people understand how much farmland there is in the world, how much energy this would take, and how expensive it would be.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 6:31 am to texag7
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I'm currently looking at possibly starting a small biofuel company using tallow seeds from invasive Chinese tallow trees
They looked at this years ago in Louisiana, and nothing ever came of it. The company decided not to do it, for whatever reason. If they can't do it in Louisiana, it won't work anywhere.
People complain about government subsidized farming, but do you guys have any idea how many people would have quit farming in south Louisiana after the flooding the last 2 years if it weren't for government-funded crop insurance?
It's not an easy business, and a lot (in fact, probably most) of these guys wouldn't be able to do it without government programs.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 6:35 am
Posted on 11/18/17 at 6:58 am to LakeViewLSU
Haven’t a lot of gains been made in hydroponic/indoor farming?
Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:05 am to texag7
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It's a risky business and basically impossible to start out farming now as a career.
Equipment prices are absurd
Yep and yep. It's all passed down through families basically. I know some guys up in Iowa with corn farms. It's brutal work and stressful when the weather isn't doing what you want it to.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:48 am to southernelite
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The government subsidizes the frick out of farming
Not really when compared to China, India, and most other “developing countries”
Cotton which is the most expensive, and risky row crop to grow gets zero gov payments
But maybe we should get all our rice from Vietnam, and our corn and beans from Brazil and see how much people like that
Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:51 am to Midtiger farm
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Cotton which is the most expensive, and risky row crop to grow gets zero gov payments
That is definitely not true. FSA has programs for cost-sharing and loans for cotton producers.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:02 am to LakeViewLSU
That 2 hour show that the Discovery channel did called "Rancher, Farmer, Fisherman" has a great segment on it about farming and the techniques many use.
They're pro no-till farming and make a damn good case for it too. Instead of tilling every season and disturbing the soil and digging up all the roots, the roots are allowed to grow deep, which helps in times of drought. It would also be a huge help in places like Louisiana that have flood problems because it soaks up so much extra water.
It's an interesting process that I had no clue about until I watched the show. It's an interesting watch and I would definitely recommend it to anyone who has an interest in outdoors, especially fishing, farming and hunting.
They're pro no-till farming and make a damn good case for it too. Instead of tilling every season and disturbing the soil and digging up all the roots, the roots are allowed to grow deep, which helps in times of drought. It would also be a huge help in places like Louisiana that have flood problems because it soaks up so much extra water.
It's an interesting process that I had no clue about until I watched the show. It's an interesting watch and I would definitely recommend it to anyone who has an interest in outdoors, especially fishing, farming and hunting.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:02 am to TH03
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Yep and yep. It's all passed down through families basically
Yeah, it’s not impossible, but you do have to have a connection to find land, and then it would be a lengthy process to get large enough to justify quitting another job to farm for yourself full time.
A lot of people that have the farming bug, but don’t have the means to do it just farm a little on the weekends of land their grandfathers were making a living off of in the 50’s and 60’s.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:16 am to saint tiger225
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They're pro no-till farming and make a damn good case for it too. Instead of tilling every season and disturbing the soil and digging up all the roots, the roots are allowed to grow deep, which helps in times of drought. It would also be a huge help in places like Louisiana that have flood problems because it soaks up so much extra water.
The problem in rice country is that it is very difficult to no-till, especially in a rotation including crawfish.
Unless you can convince the farmers to go back to walking their ponds instead of using the paddle boats, you will never get a true no-till system in rice.
Now, row crops? Not as big an issue, and there are farmers in Louisiana who practice no-till.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:22 am to LakeViewLSU
When I read multi-level, I had a different idea. I thought you meant MLM, or a pyramid scheme. Basically we have to get bored housewives on Facebook to bombard their friends with advertisements to purchase produce and essential oils at 10 times the retail price.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 8:23 am
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:42 am to Cowboyfan89
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Unless you can convince the farmers to go back to walking their ponds instead of using the paddle boats, you will never get a true no-till system in rice.
Push boats have been coming back big time on this end due to how bad those paddle boats tear up the ground. I have a friend that crawfishes about 1,600 acres and doesn't own a motorized boat......16 Mexicans-16 push boats
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:50 am to Cowboyfan89
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That is definitely not true. FSA has programs for cost-sharing and loans for cotton producers.
Cost share is for irrigation or conservation implements. An established cotton farmer is not getting an FSA loan because he’s not going to qualify and Fsa loans are not as good as they look on paper
They are not getting a Plc or arc payment
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:54 am to Cowboyfan89
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Unless you can convince the farmers to go back to walking their ponds instead of using the paddle boats, you will never get a true no-till system in rice.
You can’t do true no till in a standard rice/soybean rotation in south LA either because you have to get rid of the stubble and most guys 2nd crop
Guys in the Delta have started doing row rice where possible and then burning the stubble and planting beans the next year
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:57 am to LakeViewLSU
We can grow in desert sand with hydroponic technology. I think we'll be fine.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:58 am to Cowboyfan89
I can't disagree with that. I'm not very knowledgeable about farming and the techniques involved with all of them. I have a close friend that farms sugar cane over in Donaldsonville and talk with him about that every now and then, but I'm definitely no expert, just interested.
That show is interesting though. It made me wonder why more farmers don't practice no-till farming in areas/crops that allow it.
That show is interesting though. It made me wonder why more farmers don't practice no-till farming in areas/crops that allow it.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 9:01 am
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:20 am to saint tiger225
I’d bet at least half the country’s farmers practice no till and another 25% use conservation tillage. That show acted like no till was some new thing but it’s not
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