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re: How many years until we have multi-level farming?

Posted on 11/18/17 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 11:41 am to
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Have to have perfect harvest conditions which doesn't happen often.


Exactly what I've always heard, and why no one does it. If your harvest conditions are only good enough to allow it every 3 or 4 years, it's not possible to do.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:02 pm to
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As far as no till goes, it definitely has places that it’s the way to go, but it’s not in LA Rice Country and the ArkLaMiss Delta. I think we could make some improvements in the way some of the tillage is done and incorporate some cover crops, but I don’t believe in widespread, full blown, no till in the Delta.


It's really hard to do cotton no-till unless you're planting on the side of a hill, IMO. You need at least a hint of a row to give the seeds enough drainage so they'll sprout and come up. Furrow irrigation also doesn't play too nicely with complete no-till. You'll need to at least run a watering plow down the middles each year.

Of the actual government money spent in the farm bill I believe only ~13% actually goes towards farmers and farm programs, or around $25 billion dollars. $25 billion spent on a $1 trillion GDP sector of the economy. That's a pretty great ROI, if you ask me.

IMO a cotton farmer really needs to be averaging at least a thousand pounds per acre (lint, not seed cotton) most years to justify growing the crop. Vertical integration helps, such as buying stock in a cotton gin.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:17 pm to
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It's really hard to do cotton no-till unless you're planting on the side of a hill, IMO. You need at least a hint of a row to give the seeds enough drainage so they'll sprout and come up. Furrow irrigation also doesn't play too nicely with complete no-till. You'll need to at least run a watering plow down the middles each year.


I don’t care who you are and how much money you throw at the crop. The three most important things to farm in the Delta, especially cotton and corn:

Have it on a good row

Get the water on

GET THE WATER OFF

If you can’t drain it, you can’t farm it
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:25 pm to
Couldn't have said it any better, myself. It's why furrow irrigation is so much more popular than pivots to us. We needed the improved drainage more than we did the actual irrigation. Especially in the clay soils.

I'll be honest, I know historically people always planted cotton on the lightest, best dirt due to better drainage and an earlier maturing crop, but with the advent of land leveling and furrow irrigation, as well as the boll weevil eradication, I like a mixed to heavy soil better. You don't have to stand on its head to keep the growth in check.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Wouldn't the plants on the lower levels not get enough sunlight without lamps? Wouldn't the costs of powering all of those lamps negate the gains in acreage?


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Things that would need to be overcome with great ideas.


Mirrors
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12743 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:39 pm to
Yeah, we haven’t gotten it all ginned off yet, but there was about a 100 pound difference in true cotton dirt and our heavy irrigated ground this year, but this year, it’s going to be really close on return because the heavy ground didn’t get as rank so it defoliated better and is grading out better so far.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36606 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:45 pm to
Why is this needed? There is too much farmland in production right now.

The government is literally paying farmers to take land out of production.
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