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re: How long does it take for a cruise ship to break even?

Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:57 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:57 am to
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heir oldest ship, the Ecstasy has been sailing since 1991,




And it looks 30 years old, too. How unappealing is that thing?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50551 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:57 am to
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My gosh. I've never seen another person on this board pretend to know so much about everything, yet be as clueless about all of it as you are.


You just literally threw shite at the wall, and hoped people would think you knew what you were talking about.


That is not what I did. I did throw shite at the wall in a very rough estimate, which I admitted, but I did not claim to know what the frick I'm talking about. You need to lighten up and quit being such an internet hard arse, bitch.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50551 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:58 am to
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The capacity of that ship specifically is more like 6500.

Wow holy shite!

Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:08 am to
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but I did not claim to know what the frick I'm talking about


That entire post was pretty much you claiming to know what the frick you are talking about.

quote:

You need to lighten up and quit being such an internet hard arse, bitch


How about I lighten up and stop being an internet hard arse, whenever you stop being such an internet dumb arse?
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:17 am to
I read 6-10 years.

There are many variables involved in the calculations.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20594 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:27 am to
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And it looks 30 years old, too. How unappealing is that thing?



Not great. It looks like she is doing short 5 day hops out of Jacksonville.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:27 am to
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How long does it take for a cruise ship to break even?


Couple of hours give or take, depending on the size of the iceberg of course.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:40 am to
I’m pretty sure the labor, is for the most part, pretty much indentured servitude bordering on slavery. Everyone who works on these boats comes from eastern block Europe, SE Asia or equatorial Africa. They probably make like $7/week
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:44 am to
In thinking cruise ships don't actually turn a profit and they are actually a front for drug trafficking.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102067 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:44 am to
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cruise ship


There may never be a bigger waste of vacation $$
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30387 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:49 am to


Someone could start with the profit per day divide that by the total number of their fleet occupancy and multiply by the occupancy of an individual ship to get the ships daily profit. Some more simple math and you have the rough time to break even. I ain't that bored.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:54 am to
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I’m pretty sure the labor, is for the most part, pretty much indentured servitude bordering on slavery. Everyone who works on these boats comes from eastern block Europe, SE Asia or equatorial Africa. They probably make like $7/week




It's an extremely dirty and unethical thing. Cruise ship companies are horrible.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23221 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:58 am to
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How about I lighten up and stop being an internet hard arse, whenever you stop being such an internet dumb arse?


Sounds like someone lost an argument with the wife last night.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4221 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:58 am to
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How long does it take


From Google -cruise ships make an average of $291 profit per passenger per cruise.

If true, 291 x 6500 = $1,891,500 per cruise

1 cruise per week, 52 weeks = 98,358,000 per year.

Depending on other costs, 10-15 years?



Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139225 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:59 am to
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How long does it take for a cruise ship to break even?


With most of the new ones costing between $500M-1B, I would guess at least 15 years.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:59 am to
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There may never be a bigger waste of vacation $$




I've never been on one but I imagine the high end ones are nice. Viking river cruises or whatever.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139225 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:02 pm to
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I've never been on one but I imagine the high end ones are nice. Viking river cruises or whatever.


The nicer cruise lines and ships are really nice. Good quality restaurants as well, and even with the number of passengers, it doesn't feel that crowded overall.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36748 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:07 pm to
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$950,000,000 ship

Let's say its capacity is 1,500 passengers. Carnival is cheaper than the average cruise so let's say, average of off-season and in-season trips, is about a $450 per person charge for a week long cruise (it's probably more).

450x1,500 = $675,000

Each one of those passengers purchases an average of $400 in shore excursions.
1,500 x $400 = $600,000

Let's say Carnival makes 40% on excursions.

$600,000 x .40 = $240,000

So now we're at $915,000 profit per week-long cruise. Not including additional meals that aren't included, shopping, etc..

That leads me to believe it would take approximately 1,038 weeks or 19.96 years to pay off the ship. That math makes me believe they're making a shite ton more money than I indicated because no way they're going to have a ship that will take them 20 years to break even on. Chances are the number is closer to 5-10 years due to my average cost per person being on the low end and not including the additional ways cruises make money.




yeah, lets just ignore all of the operating costs of the ship



dumbass
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30126 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:21 pm to
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How long does it take for a cruise ship to break even?


Probably not that long. I'm not doing the math, but number of paying customers on a cruise X average cost X number of cruises per year + excursions/other extras/drink plans/onboard shopping - ship build price and operating costs. I'm sure they recoup the cost of shipbuilding fairly quickly, you know, if it weren't for this pandemic shite.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:22 pm to
Key West is voting on November 3rd to ban cruise ships from docking in Key West because the residents think the passengers are too trashy. It’s about $90 million in annual revenue that they are willing to turn away.
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