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re: How high would you have to jump in order to land in a different spot?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:46 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:46 pm to Obtuse1
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There are some second-order effects like wind velocity and direction along with the Cd and CdA of the body
Could be less than an inch if the wind is strong enough.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:56 pm to fightin tigers
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Could be less than an inch if the wind is strong enough.
To actually answer his question in a real-world environment, it would be somewhat complicated.
You would have to have the wind speed and velocity, and if that was static or dynamic during the duration of the jump. The Cd and CdA would also change throughout the jump as one bent down to jump and extended to jump. That being said, they told me there would be no calculus.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:00 pm to OysterPoBoy
Don't know how to chatgpt???
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If you're standing on Earth and jump straight up, you already have the same eastward velocity as the ground beneath you due to Earth's rotation. So when you're in the air, you continue moving east at almost the same speed as the surface below you.
The key effect that can make you land somewhere slightly different is the Coriolis effect, which causes a tiny horizontal deflection while you're airborne.
Let's estimate how high you'd need to jump to land more than 6 inches (0.1524 m) from where you started (the radius of a 1-foot-diameter circle).
For a vertical jump to height hhh, the time in the air is:
t=22hgt = 2\sqrt{\frac{2h}{g}}t=2g2h??
The Coriolis deflection for a vertical jump at latitude ?\phi? is approximately:
d˜43 O cos?? (2h)3/2gd \approx \frac{4}{3}\,\Omega\,\cos\phi\,\frac{(2h)^{3/2}}{\sqrt{g}}d˜34?Ocos?g?(2h)3/2?
where:
O=7.292×10-5 rad/s\Omega = 7.292\times10^{-5}\ \text{rad/s}O=7.292×10-5 rad/s (Earth's rotation rate)
g=9.81 m/s2g = 9.81\ \text{m/s}^2g=9.81 m/s2
At a mid-latitude of about 45°45^\circ45°:
d˜6.2×10-5h3/2d \approx 6.2\times10^{-5} h^{3/2}d˜6.2×10-5h3/2
(with ddd and hhh in meters).
Setting d=0.1524d = 0.1524d=0.1524 m and solving:
h˜180 mh \approx 180\ \text{m}h˜180 m
or about 590 feet.
The airtime would be:
t˜12 secondst \approx 12\ \text{seconds}t˜12 seconds
which is far beyond any human jump.
So, due solely to Earth's rotation, you'd need to jump roughly 600 feet straight up before the Coriolis deflection would carry you outside a 1-foot-diameter circle. The exact number varies with latitude (it's larger near the equator and smaller near the poles), but it's on the order of hundreds of feet, not inches or meters.
Interestingly, if you could somehow leap that high, you'd drift only a few inches despite being airborne for over 10 seconds because both you and the ground are already moving east together at nearly the same speed.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:01 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Assume you are on a board with wheels.
Skateboard
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:01 pm to OysterPoBoy
How many pots did you smoke?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:07 pm to Notro
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If you're standing on Earth and jump straight up, you already have the same eastward velocity as the ground beneath you due to Earth's rotation. So when you're in the air, you continue moving east at almost the same speed as the surface below you. The key effect that can make you land somewhere slightly different is the Coriolis effect, which causes a tiny horizontal deflection while you're airborne. Let's estimate how high you'd need to jump to land more than 6 inches (0.1524 m) from where you started (the radius of a 1-foot-diameter circle). For a vertical jump to height hhh, the time in the air is: t=22hgt = 2\sqrt{\frac{2h}{g}}t=2g2h?? The Coriolis deflection for a vertical jump at latitude ?\phi? is approximately: d˜43 O cos?? (2h)3/2gd \approx \frac{4}{3}\,\Omega\,\cos\phi\,\frac{(2h)^{3/2}}{\sqrt{g}}d˜34?Ocos?g?(2h)3/2? where: O=7.292×10-5 rad/s\Omega = 7.292\times10^{-5}\ \text{rad/s}O=7.292×10-5 rad/s (Earth's rotation rate) g=9.81 m/s2g = 9.81\ \text{m/s}^2g=9.81 m/s2 At a mid-latitude of about 45°45^\circ45°: d˜6.2×10-5h3/2d \approx 6.2\times10^{-5} h^{3/2}d˜6.2×10-5h3/2 (with ddd and hhh in meters). Setting d=0.1524d = 0.1524d=0.1524 m and solving: h˜180 mh \approx 180\ \text{m}h˜180 m or about 590 feet. The airtime would be: t˜12 secondst \approx 12\ \text{seconds}t˜12 seconds which is far beyond any human jump. So, due solely to Earth's rotation, you'd need to jump roughly 600 feet straight up before the Coriolis deflection would carry you outside a 1-foot-diameter circle. The exact number varies with latitude (it's larger near the equator and smaller near the poles), but it's on the order of hundreds of feet, not inches or meters. Interestingly, if you could somehow leap that high, you'd drift only a few inches despite being airborne for over 10 seconds because both you and the ground are already moving east together at nearly the same speed.

Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:11 pm to OysterPoBoy
On the equator or on the tip of one of the poles?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:14 pm to BHM
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On the equator or on the tip of one of the poles?
shite
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:17 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Ok. Assume you are on a board with wheels.
Yes, the plane would take off.
Man that was a fun thread.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:20 pm to BHM
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On the equator or on the tip of one of the poles?
You weigh slightly more at the poles than at the equator.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 8:08 pm to OysterPoBoy
Oh hell, that’s easy bro. No math.
350’
350’
Posted on 6/12/26 at 8:21 pm to Rouge
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Depending on your exact latitude, Earth spins at up to 1,000 mph (1,600 km/h).
Whoa.....and so far tonight I haven't spilled a drop of my cocktail
Posted on 6/12/26 at 8:30 pm to Notro
Thanks. I now know the answer to this meaningless question even less than I did before I read that answer.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 9:06 pm to Notro
Interestingly, if you could somehow leap that high, you'd drift only a few inches despite being airborne for over 10 seconds because both you and the ground are already moving east together at nearly the same speed.
So I can run faster heading East and slower running West. Same as being able to long jump further running west as the ground is moving East at 1000 mph.
So I can run faster heading East and slower running West. Same as being able to long jump further running west as the ground is moving East at 1000 mph.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 9:31 pm to OysterPoBoy
Is a point in space ever the same from one second to the next?
Everything is moving, always. We never pass through the same exact point in space twice in our lives.
Everything is moving, always. We never pass through the same exact point in space twice in our lives.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:03 pm to Rouge
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Earth's Rotation: Depending on your exact latitude, Earth spins at up to 1,000 mph (1,600 km/h). Orbiting the Sun: Our planet races around the Sun at about 67,000 mph (107,000 km/h). Orbiting the Milky Way: The entire Solar System speeds through our galaxy at roughly 514,000 mph (828,000 km/h). Galactic Motion: Relative to the cosmic microwave background radiation (the thermal leftover from the Big Bang), the Milky Way itself moves at 1.3 million mph (2.1 million km/h) toward the constellation Leo. We are fast as frick, boy!
Can’t wait for Golden Meadow to start factoring this in on their tickets.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:03 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Oh! Scruffy knows this one!
If only there were a word for that...
A bike!
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:04 pm to Scruffy
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Oh! Scruffy knows this one! A bike!
Scruffy oughta come wipe the pinot grigio off my ipad.
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