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How has LA not yet fixed this unemployment issue?

Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:28 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41706 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:28 pm
I am getting real tired of hearing about the following situations.

John Doe was making $1,000 per week before Corona, his hours are cut from 40 to 16 per week. He is now making $400 per week. Because his $400 in weekly earnings is more than $247 per week, he is ineligible for any unemployment assistance. He gets $400 per week.

Jim Smith was making $1,000 per week before Corona. His hours were cut from 40 to 8 per week. He is now making $200 per week. He will get $47 in LA unemployment, PLUS he will get the entire $600 a week in federal unemployment benefits, so he will now get $847/week.

I can understand that mistakes may have been made in the initial rush to help people, but the fact that is still happening, and no attempt has been made to change the law to fix it, is disturbing.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:29 pm to
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and no attempt has been made to change the law to fix it, is typical.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71222 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:30 pm to
Don’t forget the person who was making $800 before, but now makes $1200 in unemployment, so when a business tried to hire them back at $800, they said f$&k you!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Because his $400 in weekly earnings is more than $247 per week, he is ineligible for any unemployment assistance.


Is this correct? The $600 is completely separate from state benefits and applies to anyone who lost work or has reduced hours.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60220 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:32 pm to
What’s real sad is some of us still gotta work and didn’t even get that 1200 bucks

I was gonna buy some new pipes for my super duty but noooo
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:32 pm to
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Don’t forget the person who was making $800 before, but now makes $1200 in unemployment, so when a business tried to hire them back at $800, they said f$&k you!



Why did you cut off "then they lose their unemployment benefits for turning down gainful employment"?

You have to show proof that you're attempting to get a job, and they will verify it with the companies. You don't get to turn down jobs and keep getting money.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41706 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Is this correct? The $600 is completely separate from state benefits and applies to anyone who lost work or has reduced hours.


Not in Louisiana. The secretary of LWC has said on many occasions that in order to be eligible for ANY benefits, you have to earn less than $247 per week. You aren't allowed in the pay claim system if you make $248 per week.

If you make less than $247 a week, you make it to the pay claim system, and get whatever you would normally get, plus $600.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26451 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:42 pm to
People are quitting their jobs and filing for unemployment and they are getting it. Not suppose to but the govt isn’t refusing anyone right now.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3227 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:43 pm to
I don’t know. Maybe they stopped paying state employees, or they are to busy picking up trash on the side of the highway. Just taking jab at all the stop paying state employee people.

I think the problem is they way the system automatically processes things. It is old, but even so when writing software that complicated you can plan on some odd changes, but not so much ones that completely changes the logic like some of these “temporary” rules have. Even so, you usually have more than a month or two to plan and make those kind of major changes.



Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216685 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:46 pm to
I think you have to be eleigable in your state before getting any fed help.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:47 pm to
How does the state dictate who gets the federal payment? The state can't just ignore the provisions of the Bill.

From LA works:

quote:

Who qualifies for the federal $600 benefit?

Anyone who is qualified for at least $1 of State Unemployment Insurance Benefits or the federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance benefits will be eligible to receive the additional $600 benefit from the federal CARES Act. This includes self-employed and 1099 workers, who are normally excluded from receiving state benefits

quote:

I am ineligible for state unemployment benefits. Can I still receive the $600 federal benefit?

If you qualify for federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA), you will receive the $600.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
7032 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:48 pm to
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I think you have to be eleigable in your state before getting any fed help.

Yeah, this..
If you're eligible for just $1 of unemployment it makes the fed $600 available.. At least that's the way I read it.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5181 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:51 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 9:09 pm
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99045 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:54 pm to
Friend is in this exact situation. Works one day a week and makes $300. No unemployment. If he worked zero he would make $850
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41706 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:04 pm to
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How does the state dictate who gets the federal payment? The state can't just ignore the provisions of the Bill.


I think you answered your own question.

In order to receive federal Pandemic Unemployment Benefits, you have to be eligible to receive state unemployment benefits. If you are ineligible for state unemployment benefits, you will not receive the pandemic ones. The two are tied together in LA.

That's the problem. It should not be that way.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11748 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:06 pm to
Some of us freelance W9 types are out of work and yet don’t qualify for any benefits. That’s in every state.
Posted by Mr Wonderful
Love City
Member since Oct 2015
1045 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:19 pm to
In your hypothetical situations:

John Doe should be making $400.

Jim Smith should be making $200.

quote:

no attempt has been made to change the law to fix it

Here's how you fix it...get rid of unemployment benefits.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10764 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Now makes $1200 in unemployment
No one in Louisiana or Texas is making $1200 a week unemployment. It’s taxed at 10%. The most anyone is making with the $600 stimulus is $762 a week and Texas is $1009 a week.
There are plenty of people who are getting maximum unemployment and taking big losses. If you make more than $38k a year in LA unemployment isn’t overpaying you.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:37 pm to
That’s on purpose
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42625 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:07 pm to
How are you getting unemployment if you're not unemployed?
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