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re: How do you solve the problem of inner city violence/ drug culture in the US?

Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:23 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:23 am to
1. Stop rewarding the least productive members of society for having more offspring.

2. Build more jails, many more.

Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11295 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:27 am to
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Imprison all the addicts in the middle of nowhere and force them to perform hard labor until they are either clean or dead. Once clean pay them for their labor so they haven a head start. No mercy for those who don’t make it.

This OR full libertarian--decriminalize drugs stuff and/or have an alternate prison system for just drug crimes for basically forced rehab. And focus on parenting.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5720 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:31 am to
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1. Stop rewarding the least productive members of society for having more offspring.

2. Build more jails, many more.


very simply put, yes.

any sort of welfare should have a lifetime limit on it. Some honest people run into hard times and need help. No problem with that. But it must be temporary, and limited. NOt for generations.

regarding schools, jails, criminals, drugs....society is enamored with figuring out WHY a person made a decision to break the law. stop caring about why, and deal with the bad decision. hand out a fitting punishment. if this means building tent city jails in the marsh, well then build them.

pity/empathy/sympathy/guilt is a major part of how we have gotten where we are.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73690 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:31 am to
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How do you solve the problem of inner city violence/ drug culture in the US?


The solution is simple. But we currently lack the will to do it. There two steps that will stop it.

1. Government stops the supply of drugs and locks up the criminals.

2. Society returns to the traditional Christian values in the home lead by a father and mother raising their children to be good, honest, hard working citizens.

I don’t see either happening in our lifetime though.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47864 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:45 am to
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It’s gotta get a whole lot worse before it can get better.

You can’t change the culture. It would be too drastic and in today’s society, impossible.


Unfortunately, it'll be the demise of America. Historically, all great Nations falter.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19868 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:00 am to
Midnight basketball programs
Arm the homeless.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:09 am to
STOP.....PAYING.....PEOPLE.....TO BREED....
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59300 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:12 am to
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It obviously starts with the parents, but we are generationally so far gone that those people were parented by the same shite people. It’s obvious that throwing money at programs doesn’t work. The foster care system is just as bad, in many cases, as the parents from whom they’re taken.

The culture has to change for anything to get better, but I just don’t see how it does. It truly is terrible seeing children put in such shite situations and never stand a chance.


This is where the root of the problems lay, so it's also where the solution has to be applied. We didn't get to this point overnight so any fix would have to be understood to not show strong returns for decades (at least a generation before seeing a noticeable improvement). It would also cost a frickton of money.

The first thing is that if we're going to have a social safety net system, it can't be a fricking Roach Motel (people can get into it very easily, but then they get stuck and it's incredibly tough to get out). It needs to be far more heavily vetted, have sunsets on how long someone can be on it (as well as time between the last day they were on it and the next time they try to enroll). This tighter framework needs to be as set in stone as legally possible (to keep politicians from relaxing standards in order to buy votes).

The other thing is that the Dept of Education in DC needs to be completely revamped to be merely a passthrough for funds to state education systems. They've shown their educational philosophies are an absolute failure for most schools.

After that, states need to create their own boarding school systems, these would be for students of the most failing schools in the state. These would be full-time school campuses set up in remote areas where both students and staff would live on the premises (but not allowed to mix outside of the classroom areas and during school times and events, any teachers found diddling students -upon successful conviction- permanently loses their teaching certificates and face a mandatory 10 year jail time with mandatory public service duties like picking up garbage, cleaning out ditches, etc). Kids would be allowed to go home for the major holidays and summer break. The schools would focus on the basics but also personal responsibility (ex: they rotate cleaning the school and/or grounds by grade instead of relying on janitors). As they progressed through the grades, job skill opportunities (woodworking, AC repair, engine repair, welding, etc) would open up for them (so that the ones who want it already have a foundation in some career path before they even graduate). They would also have the opportunity for college prep classes, it wouldn't have to be a choice between the two paths though.

For legal reasons this would need to be a voluntary system, but households in the school district who do not send their kids would need to find some other educational option (home school, private school, etc).

It's not perfect but it would be a frickton better than what we're seeing now.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89829 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:13 am to
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Don't be so damn naive as that's all it should be about.


Well to be fair, in a city like Seattle all the thieves and drugged up zombies are white.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3010 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:17 am to
Stop subsidizing single parenthood.

Too many neglected children
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12756 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:20 am to
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The culture

Can’t solve that.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:24 am to
You can’t solve the issue because every real solution will immediately be met with accusations of racism or some other baseless crap.
Posted by bknight00
East of the Rockies
Member since Aug 2007
569 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:34 am to
The core issue is parental involvement. Children are being born because it’s a form of revenue for the lowest form of citizenry. For decades we’ve thrown money at the issue and it has progressively gotten worse and only costs us more money. My way to deal is this. There is a lifetime maximum on social benefits. It’s ashamed there is a maximum on the amount you can borrow to get a college degree and most health insurances have a lifetime maximum also, but you can be an absolute worthless human raising worthless humans and you can profit from it.
Secondly, make parents responsible. If a parent that’s on any social program has a young teen not going to school or out committing crime, start punishing the welfare parent by taking away “benefits “. Nothing gets people to act right like taking away their money.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5947 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:36 am to
Stop and frisk. It works.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:36 am to
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This isn’t meant to be about race


quote:


Sounds like you don’t want to have a serious conversation



i feel this way somewhat, but even more than race until you are willing to stop glorfying single moms and start glorfying nuclear family and doing everything to support that with proposals than you are wasting your time even having the conversation on race.

have to have media and politicians glorfying nuclear families through stories and through policy as a start'


from there we need to have a serious conversation about that culture and if that is racist...well frick em.


from there we can start doing the same for education and making it 100% requirement and those that choose not to go......hold parents accountable. Also have to do something with behavior issues. Cant keep on the same path.


so on and so fourth.

what will not work and has not work is just locking up addicts. that shite doesnt work. why the frick would you want to keep doing the same thing we have been doing.

and as fara s the violence....violent people are always going to be attracted to a black market where they can make great money and control people with their violent nature. Key to stopping that is legalization of everything. remove the incentative.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:39 am to
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This OR full libertarian--decriminalize drugs stuff and/or have an alternate prison system for just drug crimes for basically forced rehab. And focus on parenting.


How about leaning towards freedom instead of full blown authoritarianism.

Funny how all the conservative here are for a huge nanny state when it's not effecting their group.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:40 am to
The correct answer is that nothing works. Containing it is the best solution.

Now that police can’t do their jobs, all we can do is let the mob rule the mob. Stand back and pick up the bodies once the blood stops flowing.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24896 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:50 am to
The Chinese had the right idea with the Great Wall. Do the same except around major city neighborhoods. Have a contract with local bread companies to throw their old bread over the walls once a day, and with local restaurants for their uneaten food.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108047 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:52 am to
1. Incentivize parental involvement. For instance, educational neglect should be charged more often and with heavier consequences. Fully find CHFS/CPS so they’re doing more than working the worst cases of abuse. Tie welfare assistance to participation at their child’s school.

2. As far as drugs are concerned, we need a better system to address addiction. Good rehab shouldn’t cost thousands out of pocket. Instead of putting those people in jail, build better rehab facilities. Use those facilities to help employee former addicts (a lot of former addicts work in the substance use counseling field with great success, it gives them real purpose).

3. Legalize and decriminalize marijuana federally.

4. Bring discipline back into schools. We have online instruction now, if a kid can’t keep their shite together then hand their parents an online ID and password and tell them to figure it the frick out. We’re losing too many borderline kids in the system because of a handful of really bad kids that disrupt everything.

5. Tougher sentences and time for those who are in gangs and dealing (not using, but dealing). Stop expunging those records for juveniles (this is a BIG one since they often use younger kids to do the dirty work since their records get sealed).
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 7:54 am
Posted by LoveHorn
77436
Member since Aug 2022
36 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:55 am to
Yeah because 50 years of abortion access has done a great job of solving inner city problems.. SMDH

If anything there is a better case for abortions going up and society going down.
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