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re: How do you respond to those who say that gun control is the answer???

Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:15 pm to
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I doesnt hurt to at least attempt to make it more difficult for lunatics to get their hands on automatic weapons.


Read up on the 1934 NFA and the 1968 GCA as amended in 1986. Until you understand the current legal landscape at its most basic level you should probably find another topic to discuss.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:17 pm to

I ask them to a search YouTube for Piers Morgan getting shite on by the likes of Alex Jones or Jessie Ventura. They'll learn on their own because they certainly don't want to concede the argument to a friend or family member.
Posted by ClydeFrog
Kenya
Member since Jul 2012
3261 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:17 pm to
Libs say we don't need guns to keep us safe while at the same time saying they need to confiscate guns to keep us safe. Can't have it both ways.

Guns are here to stay. Disarmament would only take guns from the law abiding citizens. Criminala/terrorists could continue to find guns through the ones currently available on the street plus the flow of guns over the Mexican border that Liberals refuse to secure.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27406 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:17 pm to
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They are morons and there's no dissuading them from their stupidity.


They'd say the same about you. You could talk about Jesus next.

I want a world where crazy fricks like the Colorado Springs guy can't get a gun. But I love my CZ and would like to buy another pistol or two. Where is the middle ground.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13364 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:18 pm to
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How do u respond to these people who think that the problem is our laws and not the individual?



This is a totally different question than "is gun control the answer?"

The simple answer to the thread title question is that, yes, many other industrialized countries have successfully implemented gun control laws that have astronomically reduced gun crime in those countries relative to the U.S.
Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
4908 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:18 pm to
do you think that skews the numbers?

serious question.
Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Nov 2012
5550 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:18 pm to
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How do you respond to those who say that gun control is the answer???
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Clames

This dude can debate gun control with the best of them
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:20 pm to

It's not just a Lib thing. I hope that's clear to most.
Posted by 19thHole
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75034 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:21 pm to
Yes, suicide by gun being included massively alters the numbers.

CDC reported over 21 thousand deaths related to firearm suicides.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46135 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:22 pm to
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do you think that skews the numbers?

serious question.


LINK

All suicides
Number of deaths: 41,149
Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.0
Cause of death rank: 10

Firearm suicides
Number of deaths: 21,175
Deaths per 100,000 population: 6.7
Posted by snakanator
Member since Sep 2010
663 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:23 pm to
Ask her if she thinks all Muslims are Islamic terrorist.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137030 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:25 pm to
50% is an insignificant amount, right?
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2409 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:25 pm to
Respond to her with "So it's the forks problem for people being fat?"
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

I want a world where crazy fricks like the Colorado Springs guy can't get a gun.


I want a world where I'm a billionaire, immortal, and a male pornstar.

quote:

But I love my CZ and would like to buy another pistol or two.


Good, make it happen.


quote:

Where is the middle ground.


Pretty much almost there. I'd like to see the 1934 NFA and the 1986 FOPA repealed though.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:26 pm to
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It certainly wont really stop anything, but I also so see how the other side gets so outraged when people talk about gun control. I doesnt hurt to at least attempt to make it more difficult for lunatics to get their hands on automatic weapons.


Yeah, this is what I mean when I'm "pro-gun control". Sure, he's probably going to eventually acquire one by illegal means, but if a known mentally disturbed person tries to purchase a weapon, then they could at least alert the authorities about it. It won't be able to stop all of them, but it may mean the difference in a few of these shootings.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:28 pm to
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doesnt hurt to at least attempt to make it more difficult for lunatics to get their hands on automatic weapons.


you dont know what youre talking about.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37105 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:29 pm to
Drugs are illegal.

How's that working out?
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2409 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:29 pm to
Or throw some history in their face; The Japanese did not invade the US mainland in WW2 because they feared every American had a gun.

"There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" - Isoroku Yamamoto
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