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re: How do you handle paternity leave in performance rankings
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:35 am to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:35 am to Green Chili Tiger
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You know a lot of women that take paternity leave?
I wrote an entire post earlier then deleted it because I said there is no way a MAN is asking for 3 months off. I literally assumed it was a typo.
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:37 am to CocomoLSU
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Why are several people assuming this is a man? I've never heard of 3 months for paternity leave. Maternity maybe, but not paternity.
But either way, if it's policy and they did good work during the 9 months then I would rate them on that. I mean, what is the plan to say..."This worker was outstanding for nine months, but then didn't do shite for three, so they 'need improvement' on their performance." ?
ETA: Whoops, I misread paternity as maternity. Yes, I know there is a difference. But I will leave my post unedited above and face my shame and ridicule.
Yup, that length of time was so long I thought the OP misstated who was taking off.
Unreal a dude wants 3 months off LOL. 1/4 of the entire year.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:39 am to Trevaylin
quote:Men don’t have babies, silly.
Real issue for metric driven organizations. Your 1 rated performer has a child and takes off for 3 months of the yearly evaluation period . Zero work out put for that three months. Do you drop they/them to average, giving a coworker who was in place the entire time a shot at the 1 rating. A coworker that probably had to pick up the slack.
And there’s no basement in the Alamo either.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:40 am to BigPerm30
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3 months is absolutely ridiculous unless there is some special circumstance. If mother has bad complications, etc, I could understand. One month would be stretching it in my opinion. If he needs to come some half days, miss days here and there, etc. that’s ok. If the dude is taking a solid three months off, that’s an issue in my opinion.
My company offers 6 weeks of paid parental leave. It wasn’t a thing a thing when my first was born, she was born on a Wednesday and I was back at work the following Monday. But I sure as shite used it for my second child and it was a great experience.
You and the others in here railing against this are the same types who put work over family and wonder why kids are so misguided these days.
Can’t put a value on extra time with my kids. A company will shite can you whenever they please so frick putting their needs over my wife and kids.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:43 am to Chef Curry
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My company offers 6 weeks of paid parental leave. It wasn’t a thing a thing when my first was born, she was born on a Wednesday and I was back at work the following Monday. But I sure as shite used it for my second child and it was a great experience.
You and the others in here railing against this is are the same types who put work over family and wonder why kids are so misguided these days.
Can’t put a value on extra time with my kids. A company will shite can you whenever they please so frick putting their needs over my wife and kids.
If your company offers it you should take it of course, we are just saying that people are being pussies about it.
You dont really need 6 weeks but no one is saying dont take 6 weeks.
The corporations are the ones who need to make the change back, certainly take advantage of any free money the give you.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:43 am to jizzle6609
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asking for 3 months off
No one’s asking. It’s company policy as per OP
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:46 am to BigPerm30
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If the dude is taking a solid three months off, that’s an issue in my opinion
Previous very large corporate company I worked for gave 12 weeks paid paternity leave and 16 weeks paid maternity leave.
You better believe I took every bit of the leave as it is a benefit the company offers.
I assume you don't use all your vacation time either?
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:49 am to Trevaylin
It is really, really stupid to penalize or negatively judge someone for taking advantage of company policy.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:49 am to Indefatigable
The wrench turners won’t like this thread
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:50 am to LSU6262
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Previous very large corporate company I worked for gave 12 weeks paid paternity leave and 16 weeks paid maternity leave. You better believe I took every bit of the leave as it is a benefit the company offers.
This. I guess we are pussies because because the company will pay us to be at home with the family. Instead, we should be at work! Making the same pay as we would taking the company approved paternity leave.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:50 am to jizzle6609
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we are just saying that people are being pussies about it.
Ok, macho man that chooses work over family
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:50 am to Loup
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I wouldn't fault an employee for taking time off if it's company policy to allow it.
This. And IMO family leave for most American companies is a disgrace. We should encourage young people to take family leave. The most productive members of society need to be encouraged to have more children.
Right now we are making it difficult for them by not having adequate family leave.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:51 am to jizzle6609
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The corporations are the ones who need to make the change back
Why is giving employees a benefit a bad thing?
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:51 am to Epic Cajun
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Why is giving employees a benefit a bad thing?
sToP bIeNg A pUsSy
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:52 am to dewster
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We should encourage young people to take family leave. The most productive members of society need to be encouraged to have more children.
Right now we are making it difficult for them by not having adequate family leave.
Never really thought of it that way but you're spot on.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:52 am to soccerfüt
Wow, 40 down votes, 10-1. I actually had to deal with type of issue when a long term respected employee had a heart attack, almost died and was away from work for 7 months of a ranking period. Dropped him from a 1 top to a 3 average. He was not happy but understood his impact.
When you have a true forced ranking system, everybody starts out average and you earn your way up or down the performance ladder based on your current contribution.
3 month leaves have an impact. But HR assumes that the organization will muddle through
When you have a true forced ranking system, everybody starts out average and you earn your way up or down the performance ladder based on your current contribution.
3 month leaves have an impact. But HR assumes that the organization will muddle through
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:53 am to Trevaylin
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I actually had to deal with type of issue when a long term respected employee had a heart attack, almost died and was away from work for 7 months of a ranking period. Dropped him from a 1 top to a 3 average. He was not happy but understood his impact.
I mean, you or your company just suck giant cock.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:53 am to Trevaylin
How can someone justify negatively impacting an employee based on the use of a company provided benefit? You can dislike the policy all you want but it makes no sense to ding someone’s performance for something that isn’t against the rules.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:54 am to dewster
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The most productive members of society need to be encouraged to have more children.
Correct. And we've been doing the opposite for decades, then wonder why birth rates are where they are in the middle and upper-middle class
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:58 am to LNCHBOX
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Ok, macho man that chooses work over famil
Im more of a Nacho Man than a Macho Man.
Oh I choose family but no way would I ever ask for 3 months off to sit with my wife who just had a baby. No chance.
I think whoever does that is simply taking advantage of a situation and good for them. I just dont choose to.
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