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re: How did 246 ‘fully vaccinated’ people still get COVID-19?

Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:07 am to
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20512 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:07 am to
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Truth is, I may yet get the vaccine, and I may not, but I would like to have ALL the information in front of me before I pull the trigger.
So 192 million is not a big enough sample size for you?
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:07 am to
I'm guessing you've never caught the flu after getting a flu shot?

This is pretty common. I guarantee not one out of those 246 died from Covid. Vaccines are only there to prevent "Severe" illness.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:09 am to
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Way less than 1 in 20 are at risk of COVID after receiving the vaccines.



Good! That means we dont need 75% of the population to get the vaccine before we open shite wide open
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59735 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:11 am to
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if it's 95% effective that means 5% (or 1 in 20) can still get infected. 246 per 5000 people vaccinated is right at that 5%

a lot more than 5000 people have been vaccinated


That 95% effective is of a population that would normally be infected over a specified timeframe.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
20979 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:14 am to
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The vaccines don't claim to be 100% effective.




Yes, and remember...Vaccine efficacy is the percentage reduction in a disease in a group of people who received a vaccination in a clinical trial. It differs from vaccine effectiveness, which measures how well a vaccine works when given to people in the community outside of clinical trials. The percentage given for these vaccines is their efficacy rate...not their efficiency rate. Those are two different things.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
126106 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:14 am to
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The vaccine doesn’t mean you don’t get it. It’s just significantly lessens the severity.


False. For at least 90% of fully vaccinated people it means you wont get a real infection. You just immediately clear it.

The other 10% should be less severe
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:16 am to
My 70 year old mother got the Pfizer vaccine. She's been doing whatever she wants and is healthy as she can be. She tested positive for Covid later and only had a runny nose.

My 39 year old brother in law is a Pentacostal/Evangelical nutcase and thinks the vaccine was created by Satan himself. He caught Covid at Church last weekend and is now in the hospital with double pneumonia.

Vaccine with Covid seems like better option to me....

God gave you a brain...use it.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 9:20 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53427 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:17 am to
What is up with all the anti-vax posts this morning?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40089 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:18 am to
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That means we dont need 75% of the population to get the vaccine before we open shite wide open


100% agree but not due to anything with the vaccine.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:18 am to
Does anyone know how long the vaccine last and how often do you need to get a booster or re-vaccinated?
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
972 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:20 am to
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Does anyone know how long the vaccine last and how often do you need to get a booster or re-vaccinated?


No one knows yet. Latest findings suggested at least 6 months for one of the double doses.

Only time will tell really.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75193 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:21 am to
This is actually pretty much known science with vaccinations.

They do not always elicit a sufficient immunological response in every person.

Also, Scruffy recommends that you stop reading info on this topic.

It serves no purpose anymore.
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:21 am to
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Does anyone know how long the vaccine last and how often do you need to get a booster or re-vaccinated?


Since the virus is now Endemic...my guess is 6-9 months....just like the Flu Vaccine.

You'll most likely need a seasonal booster to keep up with the different strains/variants.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:21 am to
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No one knows yet. Latest findings suggested at least 6 months for one of the double doses.

Only time will tell really.


Thanks..thats what I thought...


I'll just wait and see what time tells......
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:24 am to
1 time use vaccines are for viruses with low mutation rates.

For example: You get an MMR or Polio vax as a child and you are immune to Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and Polio for life.

Viruses with high mutation rates like Flu and Coronaviruses will require yearly boosters.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
60874 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:27 am to
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you only seek affirmation

you are a believer


I’m really not. I may very well be wrong about my apprehension to getting the vaccine, but I may not either. I do think the medical professionals who are bringing up concerns raise valid concerns though, and it’s probably because it’s so experimental that it’s what’s causing people to be very apprehensive. I don’t think that’s a bad human trait to question and be careful with whom they put their trust in. I think that’s what intelligent people do.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32265 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:32 am to
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if it's 95% effective that means 5% (or 1 in 20) can still get infected. 246 per 5000 people vaccinated is right at that 5%

a lot more than 5000 people have been vaccinated


This is just the opposite end of media fear porn totally lacking in perspective (on purpose). Just like it was and has been absurd to view infection as a virtual death sentence....it is equally absurd to claim the vaccine as totally useless because a RELATIVELY small portion of those vaccinated still "got the virus". And this is coming from someone who currently has no plans to take the vaccine (at least at this point).

All that is reported are EXTREME positions one way or the other, and that is all the polarized population wants to hear. We are not a "stupid" population. Just one that is incredibly lazy. We want the news/social media to tell us the full answer in one brief sentence (TLDR) without forcing us to engage in any sort of critical thinking exercise.



Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39816 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:38 am to
The anti-vac people on here are more vocal in shoving shite down our throat than the pro vac guys. Y’all are literally a bunch of Karens.

Your math is also awful, which makes sense why you think this is some big conspiracy
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 9:41 am
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
25934 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:49 am to
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curious what's going to happen when Phizer and Moderna get fully approved next month



did they apply yet?

I remember reading that April '21 was the projected timeframe for full approval but that was months ago. I hadn't seen anything new lately.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:49 am to
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tgrbaitn08


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