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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?

Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by Slagathor
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:02 pm to
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As I said, that is changing


ok, so it sounds like with more people trying to access them during the height of lockdowns (though it led to pausing what little access they had), candidates with platforms that support opening access further are the next logical step

You're still focused on the not-the-point part of what I said. I think our laws would be more reflective of our majority's values if we had election participation similar to countries with compulsory voting.


Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:06 pm to
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One common element in these mass shootings is the use of ssri uptake inhibitors like Prozac.
The pharmaceutical industry does a real good job of keeping that fact obscured


Up vote, Sir. Half the people you know are on some kind of antidepressants, anxiety, or other phycosis meds.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179211 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:06 pm to
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I think our laws would be more reflective of our majority's values if we had election participation similar to countries with compulsory voting.


And I disagree. There is a whole segment in the USA that is directly incentivized to vote a certain way to keep their income coming in. They literally have zero clues nor care about any other issues than who is going to give them free phones, section 8 houses, and raise the amount on their WIC card.

I couldn't care less if those people vote or not and if they were forced to then it would actually be less reflective of our values. The ones that care about values are the ones showing up to vote for their beliefs. That is a true representation.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 6:07 pm
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4596 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:18 pm to
For a long time, our society has been losing its moral code. This is just another brick in the wall.

Eventually, there will be another religions "Great Awakening" in this country.

Perhaps when this Forth Turning event is over.

That being said, the immoral inertia is too powerful to turn around right now. It is going to get worse. And it is almost summer...
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:31 pm to
As a society we need to do a better job of identifying individuals who are not mentally healthy and getting them help. We also need to do a better job of cooperating with police and turning in our criminals (no comment on which part of society has this problem)
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:31 pm to
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I think it would be best that qualified doctors handle the final decision on who's crazy. It shouldn't be crazy until proven normal though. It shouldn't be the decision of a single doctors diagnosis of mental illness either.


We as a nation have become far too tribal in our political beliefs, particularly with respect to guns, that I honestly don't feel comfortable leaving anyone's right to own a gun up to someone else's subjective beliefs


This is true. These doctors would have to be highly vetted to not have political ties or influence of any sort. My statement was for determining if someone is mentally ill though, not saying there needs to be mental health check to buy a gun. I get the connection though and if people are too fearful of that getting corrupt, then we end to learn to move on and just accept that this will continue to happen.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 9:08 pm
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:34 pm to
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Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence.

That would affect one demographic disproportionately and would cause some strife.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:36 pm to
Honestly? Repealing the 19th amendment and restoring the patriarchy. Allowing women to have so much influence over our society has been a disastrous failure. Amy clear thinking individual can see this.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:42 pm to
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frick you gun loving morons to fricking hell.

Yes this can be fricking fixed.

Every single weapon in this country should be registered.

Every single gun owner should have to pass meticulous screening.

Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence.

Release every drug offender from prison and lock up the illegal gun fricks.

frick YOUR RIGHTS

I'm sick of innocent children being gunned down so stupid fricking rednecks can pretend they're tough.

frick YOU


Imagine using dead children to push your agenda. Disgusting.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135730 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:44 pm to
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?


Personal responsibility which one party of this country does not believe in anymore. Therefore, it's not fixable.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10793 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:45 pm to
Stop glorifying them. Literally stop publishing their faces and names. Leave it to the FBI to investigate if they want. But take the posthumous glory out of it.

And be less "sad" about the event and more "hell yes look at the heros who stood up to the a-hole!"
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 6:46 pm
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
6020 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:46 pm to
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Expand our mental healthcare systems. Open more hospitals for people to get treatment when they're struggling mentally. Make it easier for parents to get treatment for their children. I have several friends who have adopted children that have needed help and it's nearly impossible to get someone placed in a facility for extended treatment beyond 48-72 hours.


You are 100% correct. I’ve shared your experience. Getting mental care for someone that needs it is very difficult.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108195 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:46 pm to
I truly don’t see any law that can fix this. I think others have hit on it, but it revolves of society changing in terms of how it functions with regards to self worth and also treatment of mental health

I wish I knew the answer, but the truth is it just doesn’t seem feasible to really “do anything”
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:48 pm to
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frick you gun loving morons to fricking hell. Yes this can be fricking fixed. Every single weapon in this country should be registered. Every single gun owner should have to pass meticulous screening. Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence. Release every drug offender from prison and lock up the illegal gun fricks. frick YOUR RIGHTS I'm sick of innocent children being gunned down so stupid fricking rednecks can pretend they're tough. frick YOU


Let us know when your estrogen levels go down a bit so we can have a real conversation ma’am.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21098 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:49 pm to
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frick you gun loving morons to fricking hell. Yes this can be fricking fixed. Every single weapon in this country should be registered. Every single gun owner should have to pass meticulous screening. Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence. Release every drug offender from prison and lock up the illegal gun fricks. frick YOUR RIGHTS I'm sick of innocent children being gunned down so stupid fricking rednecks can pretend they're tough. frick YOU


Lol, all my guns are registered. I’m not going to shoot up any place.

So, should my guns be taken away?

Serious reply only…not emotional drivel
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Member since Oct 2015
21098 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:50 pm to
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I truly don’t see any law that can fix this. I think others have hit on it, but it revolves of society changing in terms of how it functions with regards to self worth and also treatment of mental health I wish I knew the answer, but the truth is it just doesn’t seem feasible to really “do anything”


Here we go again, I agree completely with this!
Posted by LSUguy2023
St. George
Member since Oct 2021
2968 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:53 pm to
Focus more on strong family households. Parents need to be parents and not their kids friends. Raise the boys as men and the girls as women. None of this “other gender bullshite.” Stop trying to be the cool parent/friend.

Force your kids from a very young age to be involved in activities with other kids that helps with social interaction and building relationships, etc

Social media needs major changes and the easiest way to help with that also goes back to a strong family household where the video games and phones and computer time is very limited.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21098 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:56 pm to
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Focus more on strong family households. Parents need to be parents and not their kids friends. Raise the boys as men and the girls as women. None of this “other gender bullshite.” Stop trying to be the cool parent/friend. Force your kids from a very young age to be involved in activities with other kids that helps with social interaction and building relationships, etc Social media needs major changes and the easiest way to help with that also goes back to a strong family household where the video games and phones and computer time is very limited.


Things are different now but I played all the “dangerous” games when I was younger, didn’t go shoot up any place.

I don’t disagree with limiting social media, that’s for damn sure.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85838 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:02 pm to
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Focus more on strong family households. Parents need to be parents and not their kids friends. Raise the boys as men and the girls as women. None of this “other gender bullshite.” Stop trying to be the cool parent/friend.

Force your kids from a very young age to be involved in activities with other kids that helps with social interaction and building relationships, etc

Social media needs major changes and the easiest way to help with that also goes back to a strong family household where the video games and phones and computer time is very limited.


All of this, yes. We're a big, material driven country where thousands of people wash out from polite society every day and get lost. I don't think any non-Christian solution to this is really viable, but nonetheless the absence of real, genuine relationships arising from social media, bad parenting, nationalization of everything, lockdowns, etc. is killing this country.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5577 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:15 pm to
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frick you gun loving morons to fricking hell.

Yes this can be fricking fixed.

Every single weapon in this country should be registered.

Every single gun owner should have to pass meticulous screening.

Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence.

Release every drug offender from prison and lock up the illegal gun fricks.

frick YOUR RIGHTS

I'm sick of innocent children being gunned down so stupid fricking rednecks can pretend they're tough.

frick YOU


LOL. We got an internet badd arse. Come say that to any "redneck" in person..
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