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re: Houston has destroyed New Orleans Port traffic
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:28 pm to FredsGotSlacks
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:28 pm to FredsGotSlacks
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If you fly into Houston over the gulf you'll see 30-40 boats stacked up outside of Galveston waiting to go in at all times.
I see those on my bi-weekly flights to HOU, and I think most of those are oil tankers...not cargo ships.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:31 pm
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:32 pm to Deactived
Huey Long purposely had engineers build the Old Bridge (190) so ocean going ships couldnt pass under it and all commerce had to come through S. LA.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:33 pm to ihometiger
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Houston invested in their infrastructure while New Orleans/Louisiana didn't invest a nickle in ours
Reason 5,756 why Texas > Louisiana
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:36 pm to ihometiger
Houston culture is traffic
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:38 pm to ihometiger
I thought NO lost this fight 30 years ago, and that they decided to focus on bulk cargo. No real surprise here.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:41 pm to tiger09
I happened to be in Istanbul when the global slowdown occurred.
There were cargo ships just parked all over the place at the mouth of the Bosphorus. There used to be a website which had satellite images of it and other ports where the same thing was going on. Was pretty cool/creepy.
There were cargo ships just parked all over the place at the mouth of the Bosphorus. There used to be a website which had satellite images of it and other ports where the same thing was going on. Was pretty cool/creepy.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:44 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:Bloomberg still does it
There used to be a website which had satellite images of it and other ports where the same thing was going o
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:44 pm to Deactived
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They earn their money
It's a monopoly with legalized nepotism full of families whose members make $500K a year. They paid the crooked LA legislature to protect them by law and now everyone in the state pays for them to suckle off of the states economic teat. They don't 'work hard' for their $500K/yr, they scam it from everyone else in the state.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:45 pm to Deactived
quote:lol wut
when they redid the Huey P, make it higher
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:57 pm to gorillacoco
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It's a monopoly with legalized nepotism full of families whose members make $500K a year. They paid the crooked LA legislature to protect them by law and now everyone in the state pays for them to suckle off of the states economic teat. They don't 'work hard' for their $500K/yr, they scam it from everyone else in the state.
The fees are probably a bargain as others have stated. The ships aren't little vessels. No two are the same. Their weights, cargo, and power are all different. Many of the container ships are piloted by captains that don't even speak English. Be happy that an experienced pilot is operating that benzine barge while you sleep.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:58 pm to Btrtigerfan
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One well timed failure of the Old River Control Structure, and we float container ships over what used to be Morgan City.
FIFY
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:01 pm to JudgeHolden
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One well timed failure of the Old River Control Structure, and we float container ships over what used to be Morgan City.
First dry spot we find let's call it "Newest Orleans."
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:02 pm to ihometiger
Gulfport had been the main U.S. port for Chiquita banana imports up until around 2014, when they switched to New Orleans.
That only lasted 2 years or so, and then they moved everything back to Gulfport. Anyone know the story of what happened?
That only lasted 2 years or so, and then they moved everything back to Gulfport. Anyone know the story of what happened?
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:03 pm to JudgeHolden
This is 15 years in the making
Blame jindal, blame blanco, blame this inept legislature
Blame jindal, blame blanco, blame this inept legislature
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:08 pm to ihometiger
Gents, while it is true that LA has a lot of issues and is a much better place to be from than to live in, NOLA is not a container port.
Look at the cranes in New Orleans
Vs a proper container port like Savannah
New Orleans is a bulk petrochemical and agricultural port.
Look at the cranes in New Orleans
Vs a proper container port like Savannah
New Orleans is a bulk petrochemical and agricultural port.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:09 pm to MaroonWhite
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Banana, New Orleans, What happened?
Goodnight folks.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:21 pm to member12
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Frankly Mobile and Houston are better positioned for that given Louisiana's aversion to investing in concrete.
How does Mobile's port rank? Can the OP post the complete list?
Sub topic, but who gets the banana boats these days? I remember Biloxi or Gulfport used to when I was little kid.
Thanks.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:28 pm to Fishwater
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:30 pm to ihometiger
This isn't surprising, since Houston is a major city and a global player in the maritime shipping industry.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:33 pm to gorillacoco
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They don't 'work hard' for their $500K/yr,
Do you know what it actually takes to get a ship up and down the river?
Like I said earlier, its the most dangerous stretch of pilotage water in the country. Tons of traffic, small ship channel, 17ft 'tide' which can result in current speeds in excess of 5 knots. The enormity of what can happen if they lose control of a ship is scary.
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they scam it from everyone else in the state.
Wtf does this even mean? Not one cent of their yearly pay comes from tax dollars or anything from our country. All are foreign ships and the money is from foreign companies. The ship owners and shippers pay for the pilot fees.
Lets take one of the bigger boats that will come up the river. 900+ foot tanker, 160k tons, and can carry 1.1 million barrels of product. You think the owner of that ship and the company that owns the product bark at the cost of the local pilot? Which is less than 1% of the cost to get the ship there btw.
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