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Houston drainage grid 'so obsolete it's just unbelievable'

Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:57 pm
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"Houston is the most flood-prone city in the United States," said Rice University environmental engineering professor Phil Bedient. "No one is even a close second — not even New Orleans, because at least they have pumps there."

In defense of the City of New Orleans we will not allow Houston to be the most flood-prone city in the US. Mitch Landrieu will never ever allow us to be surpassed by Houston! Professor Bedient fails to take into account the work that Landrieu has put into our pumps.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:59 pm to
Every drainage grid is obsolete when you get 50 frickin inches of rain in 3 days
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 12:00 am
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:00 am to
"Professor finally vindicated after worst localized rain event in recorded history."
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:07 am to
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not even New Orleans, because at least they have pumps there."


Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:11 am to


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Every drainage grid is obsolete when you get 50 frickin inches of rain in 3 days

This.






This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 12:13 am
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:15 am to
Spike Lee just PMed me to say George Bush had blown up the Houston levees
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16076 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 4:36 am to
That picture says it all. Draining water from one flooded area right to another.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 4:37 am to
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Every drainage grid is obsolete when you get 50 frickin inches of rain in 3 days


True, but anyone who has lived in Houston for more than a year knows how bad the flooding is. There are major parts of the city that have standing water after any decent sized tropical storm.

The city has always had a major drainage problem.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11815 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 5:12 am to
Yep. There are people on edge anytime Houston gets a normal large rain. There are water depth markers on major highways so people will know when too deep to drive through.

ETA: good article on Houston flooding written prior to this flood. Boomtown, Flood Town
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 5:17 am
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15734 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:05 am to
Standard Houston/Harris county design is a 100 year storm dropped with a 25 year storm water surface. This storm far exceeds that. The lack of detention inside the beltway is absurd. New development is required to at least have 0.55 acre-ft of detention volume per acre of development. Some developments have more because they have to prove that they are not causing an impact downstream.

People don't want to admit that the solution is to condemn property in areas like Meyerland and make those areas detain before their runoff hits the bayous.
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 6:06 am
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:08 am to
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Spike Lee just PMed me to say George Bush had blown up the Houston levees


I'll reserve judgment until Kanye gives me his opinion.
Posted by roger79
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:14 am to
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"Houston is the most flood-prone city in the United States," said Rice University environmental engineering professor Phil Bedient. "No one is even a close second — not even New Orleans, because at least they have pumps there."


If you say something long enough and wait for the right time, eventually you'll be right, even if your accuracy is an astonishing rate of less than one percent. #ivorytowerprofessor
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 6:14 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11815 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:33 am to
Do you think this is the first flood in houston?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:38 am to
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Mitch Landrieu will never ever allow us to be surpassed by Houston! Professor Bedient fails to take into account the work that Landrieu has put into our pumps.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:39 am to
Horse shite.

There is nothing you can do to prepare for that much rain. Every city in the country would flood if they saw that kind of weather.

They can improve things, but there is no way to prevent flooding when you get that much water.
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 6:40 am
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26764 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:42 am to
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Spike Lee just PMed me to say George Bush had blown up the Houston levees

Landrieu is having a Spike Lee statue built for Spike Lee Circle.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:44 am to
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Meyerland


If you build a house in a floodplain, you will eventually flood. Does anybody ever pay the flood maps any attention when purchasing a home?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11815 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 7:00 am to
Did you read the article? Because what is discussed isn't about this flood only.

quote:

Nearly any city would be overwhelmed by the more than 4 feet of rain that Hurricane Harvey has dumped since Friday, but Houston is unique in its regular massive floods and inability to cope with them.


Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27766 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 7:05 am to
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If you build a house in a floodplain, you will eventually flood. Does anybody ever pay the flood maps any attention when purchasing a home?




Nope. Neither do builders. Subdivisions put into Katy along Barker and Addicks backside reservoirs were never meant to go there.

South of I-10 some of Kelliwood took water, I believe. Kelliwood AINT HUD housing. Those houses start at far end of upper middle class and go to near baller houses. Insane.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11815 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 7:09 am to
Governments need the tax revenue, developers want the profits. They are incentivized to develop at any costs.

It is happening in South Louisiana too.
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