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Houston businesses now required hand over video without a warrant

Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:35 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:35 am
Also they have to pay to install cameras

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City Council passed the new ordinance in a 15-1 vote Wednesday. The mandate applies to all bars, nightclubs, sexually-oriented businesses, convenience stores and game rooms inside city limits, according to Nora Mishanec of the Houston Chronicle. Those businesses will be forced to hold security footage for 30 days and turn it over to police within 72 hours of their request. The move is part of Mayor Sylvester Turner's One Safe Houston initiative to combat 2022's rise in crime.

"Today, we are letting people know, if you are loitering outside of convenience stores, sexually-oriented businesses, bars, and committing crimes, we will see you on camera," Mayor Pro-tem Martha Castex-Tatum told ABC13 reporter Tom Abrahams. "And if you are committing those crimes, we will make sure that you will pay the penalty for causing a nuisance in the City of Houston."

At-Large Council Member Mike Knox, a former Houston police officer, was the lone nay vote, Mishanec reported. He said the onus on businesses to install cameras is unfair and also believed the measure doesn't go far enough to reduce crime.

The vote came over the objection from the American Civil Liberties Union, which sent a letter to council members this week claiming the move was unconstitutional and made the businesses "extensions of a citywide surveillance scheme," Mishanec reported.

The businesses will have 90 days to install the cameras and additional lighting. The ordinance calls for the lights and cameras to reach from the building to the street. Establishments will be forced to pay a $500 fine if they do not comply.


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Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55643 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:37 am to
everything is bigger in texas... especially the surveillance state
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37520 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:37 am to
I don’t like this
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5151 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:37 am to
Is $500 less than the cost of lighting and cameras?
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7806 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:38 am to
Govern me harder daddy
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11213 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:38 am to
So they are going down the road of blaming businesses for crimes, not the criminals, politicians, cops, or prosecutors.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22154 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:39 am to
I had my home broken into around Christmas. Alarm went off and intruder was caught on camera. HPD arrived 40 min later, and said “there’s nothing we can do”.

Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19720 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:39 am to
I expect this ordinance to be challenged.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35550 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Is $500 less than the cost of lighting and cameras?


Yeah, probably by a good bit.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14536 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:39 am to
I would tell them to go frick themselves. Then I would sue them.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10419 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:40 am to
Will be quickly deemed unconstitutional in federal court
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98816 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Is $500 less than the cost of lighting and cameras?


I can almost bet it is
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35035 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:41 am to
quote:

had my home broken into around Christmas. Alarm went off and intruder was caught on camera. HPD arrived 40 min later, and said “there’s nothing we can do”.


I got you beat, baw. It took BRPD TWO frickING HOURS to respond to someone trying to break into my place.

“If they come back, call us, we will come as soon as possible”

It takes me less than 15 min to walk to the nearest substation….
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22314 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:43 am to
quote:

I had my home broken into around Christmas. Alarm went off and intruder was caught on camera. HPD arrived 40 min later, and said “there’s nothing we can do”.


My truck was stolen from in front of my house back in September...couple different security camera's caught them...took HPD 2-3 hours to arrive...a "good luck" was pretty much all I got.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115849 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Is $500 less than the cost of lighting and cameras?


Without reading the ordinance, I doubt it is a one time fine.

They likely give you time to pay the fine AND you are still required to comply within a certain amount of time, and you have to pay it again and again and again until you do.

This all will be challenged in court I imagine.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37520 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:43 am to
Why do you care. You have insurance.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4617 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:44 am to
Yea.....can't wait to see how long this takes to get overturned on Constitutional grounds
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119171 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:44 am to
Not remotely constitution. Leftists.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141141 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Is $500 less than the cost of lighting and cameras?

probably for a little while... until you get fined $500 enough times to not be less than the cost of the cameras & lights anymore
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124237 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:46 am to
If the government wants unfettered access then the government should pay for the system and installation
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