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re: Home defense question. Legal counsel requested

Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:59 am to
Posted by TigerDonk
BR
Member since Dec 2011
1248 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:59 am to
quote:

whenever you shoot - you tell the cop you feared for you life, and would like a legal to obtain legal counsel



Other than typo, this is the only thing to say to the police afterwards. Also, details on property would be nice. Is he in a neighborhood? Acreage? Have teenage kids whose friend might be sneaking in?
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38232 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:00 am to
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quote:

u wouldn't try and deter the criminal before shooting him?


the locked door is the deterrent. If he's trying to get past that, I'm past trying to deter him.

quote:

Also, a flood light on one's face wouldn't give up your location. If anything, it would impair the criminal's vision.



true, but a flood light wasn't specified. Moreover, most floodlight switches are close to a door. Why throw a flood light on and run the risk of having the intruder shoot thru the door at me? frick him. I'd rather use the darkness to my advantage.

FTR, I'm just sharing my opinion and telling you what I hope I would be calm enough to do. I might shite myself and just start blazing away. I may freeze in disbelief and do nothing. But having played this scenario out in my mind and thought about it a great deal, I'd keep it dark and shoot the SOB thru the door.
I'll worry about the aftermath...after.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:

The doorway doesn't present some magical threshold between legal/illegal. The intruder was on the homeowner's property actively trying to get into the house. I think most would find the homeowner's actions justified.


Regardless of legal consequences I would never fire blindly through an exterior door because someone is fiddling with the door handle.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I'd rather use the darkness to my advantage.

This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:05 am
Posted by TigerDonk
BR
Member since Dec 2011
1248 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:04 am to
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NOFOX

I would hope to do the same, but fight or flight is real.
I hope I never have to kill another human.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:07 am to
The amount of people who offer up gun advice that don't know anything is staggering
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42908 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:07 am to
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Also, details on property would be nice. Is he in a neighborhood? Acreage? Have teenage kids whose friend might be sneaking in?


He lives in the Woodlands. Neighbors within 20 yards on both sides. Kids are both younger than 8. No family in the area.

I live on 10 acres in the country. Nearest neighbor is probably 500 yards from my front door. Two story house with 29 points of entry. Would take police at least 20 minutes to get to my house if they left immediately. My kids are teenagers
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:08 am to
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Once the intruders inters the home he/she is fair game. If you shoot them outside of the home, drag them into your house ( I have been told this by several police officers) and never shoot them in the back.




That's fricking terrible advice
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29749 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:09 am to
quote:

do you shoot to kill or shoot to deter the intruder


I personally shoot to thrill
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:11 am to
quote:


I would hope to do the same, but fight or flight is real.
I hope I never have to kill another human.


In my circumstances, it is very much more likely that it is a drunk teenager or kid home from college at the wrong house than a burglar intent on breaking in while people are home and doing my family harm.

The exterior of my home is well lit, I have substantial front doors and an alarm system, no way I fire blindly at someone just jiggling the handle.

Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:12 am to
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This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:13 am
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:13 am to
It's a lot harder for a dead guy to mount a prosecution/lawsuit against you than a live one. Unload the mag aimed at center mass.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:14 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:13 am to
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They need to be inside of your house.


False.


False is correct but it makes the defense argument in court A LOT easier.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:15 am to
The amount of rights criminals get is mind blowing sometimes
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:20 am to
quote:

It's a lot harder for a dead guy to mount a prosecution/lawsuit against you than a live one. Unload the mag aimed at center mass.



I'm not well versed with Louisiana's laws, but I don't believe you can be sued civilly for the using force while acting in self-defense.

However, the State can bring charges depending upon the relevant circumstances.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:30 am to
quote:

You want a pump action shotgun with a really loud action if you are trying to deter someone.

This is so, so wrong
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:32 am to
quote:

If it's a home defense shotgun take the plug out.

quote:

Don't let the game warden catch you baw


quote:

home defense shotgun


Wow, this thread man


Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:41 am to
nm
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:42 am
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3856 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Don't let the game warden catch you baw

That's why I specified strictly home defense. There's no law saying how many shells I can have in a shotgun if I'm not hunting game. I have a couple of old shotguns that have never seen a blind and none have plugs in. All of my hunting shotguns do.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:48 am to
damn that sucks
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 12:57 pm
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