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re: Hobby Lobby defies shutdown order, begins re-opening stores

Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
Member since Dec 2019
1364 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:12 pm to
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The quicker this is over, the quicker everyone can go back to normal


Yeah? When will it be over? What’s the criteria? When do we end the quarantine?

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88461 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:12 pm to
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I'm saying this makes the time period the virus would exert catastrophic consequences end faster or not occur at all.
You’re talking about health system stress. That’s what we are trying to avoid. The quarantine and keeping businesses closed and people not working is going to last longer with this approach. Because the peak is longer and goes further out. This can be just as catastrophic. The government would have to completely change its approach to let people go back to work.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11833 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:13 pm to
Hallelujah.

I've been bored stiff after running out of model airplane glue.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30488 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:16 pm to
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The stores are taking huge precautions to sanitize


The frick kinda walmart do you live near?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50051 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:16 pm to
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Hobby Lobby defies shutdown order, begins re-opening stores
. What is going to happen when half of their employees refuse to go to work, will they be fired? Hobby Lobby isn’t a essential business. I see a lot of lawsuits coming out of this.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:17 pm to
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I think you missed the link for the poliboard.
Who brought MAGA into the thread? Him or me?

I think you missed
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41915 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:18 pm to
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Yeah? When will it be over? What’s the criteria? When do we end the quarantine?

quote:

Dr. Scott Gottlieb was the lead author of a big paper that came out on Sunday about that. Gottlieb, you may know, was FDA Director from 2017 to last year, and he's in tight with Fauci, Birx, and the rest of the medical people in the Trump Administration, so this paper will carry a lot of weight.

He said that we can reopen restaurants when we have:

* 14 days of declining new cases
* The ability to test anyone with a fever or other possible symptoms and get results in less than 30 minutes
* Can quickly effectively trace and test those associated with any new positive case.
* Established that people need to wear masks around town
* Are running regular serological tests to screen the population to understand the spread of the virus and see new infection hotspots before they get bad



Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17804 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:18 pm to
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Creating a situation where the cure is absolutely worse than the disease. If and when we come out of this shite, and the economy fails to rebound as everyone hopes, I hope you're all happy that we eliminated the spread. People are unemployed and killing themselves because they see no hope, but shite we sure did flatten the curve.


I’m not saying I agree or disagree with the decision. Just explaining to the guy who didn’t understand why grocery stores are still open
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:20 pm to
Just the first shot across the bow. All hell is about to break loose. Government didnt think This through very well. Lots of small business will soon follow suite.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:21 pm to
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People will argue that grocery stores are essential so the spread there is perfectly acceptable.

Which is fricking bonkers.


Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:21 pm to
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People will argue that grocery stores are essential so the spread there is perfectly acceptable.

Which is fricking bonkers.



I will argue with you. And it isn't me that is fricking bonkers. The goal isn't to stop the spread. It is to slow it to a manageable level. Grocery store spread is going to happen and we can't do much to stop it without causing real panic. However, letting this shite spread more b/c someone needs to buy a cheap picture frame is fricking bonkers.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:22 pm to
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Just the first shot across the bow. All hell is about to break loose. Government didnt think This through very well. Lots of small business will soon follow suite.


Which is absurd because Hobby Lobby is the posterchild for non-essential business.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:22 pm to
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Hobby Lobby defies shutdown order, begins re-opening stores
Not going to work. The Karen's on NextDoor, which are Hobby lobby's core customer, scold anyone that is outside of their house. They are almost as bad as the OT.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:28 pm to
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Which is absurd because Hobby Lobby is the posterchild for non-essential business.


People gotta make a living.

If the govt wanted cooperation they should have paid businesses off earlier. People are getting pissed.

I work for the DoL and people are pissed and the anger is growing daily, while trust in govt is waning.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:30 pm to
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People gotta make a living.

If the govt wanted cooperation they should have paid businesses off earlier. People are getting pissed.

I work for the DoL and people are pissed and the anger is growing daily, while trust in govt is waning.


I don't doubt any of that. It doesn't mean its the correct course of action.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88461 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:31 pm to
You think the shutdown was the right course? What gives you that idea?
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30488 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:32 pm to
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I will argue with you. And it isn't me that is fricking bonkers. The goal isn't to stop the spread. It is to slow it to a manageable level. Grocery store spread is going to happen and we can't do much to stop it without causing real panic. However, letting this shite spread more b/c someone needs to buy a cheap picture frame is fricking bonkers.


Okay so how about this

4 person family
1 person goes to the grocery store and gets CV19
Comes home and gets whole house sick
????
Profit
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6227 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:32 pm to
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Yeah, so let's pack them into a confined space and get the virus spread appropriately! MAGA!!


Just like the grocery stores.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:33 pm to
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It doesn't mean its the correct course of action. 


When people are losing their livelihood?

You're more likely to catch this virus in a big box "essential business" than in a small shop.

The weed shops (which have been deemed essential) are limiting to one person at a time without government coersion.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:33 pm to
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You think the shutdown was the right course?



In certain states, absolutely.

quote:

What gives you that idea?


Not wanting to implode the healthcare system and do long term damage to economic infrastructure.
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