re: Hobby Lobby defies shutdown order, begins re-opening stores

That method can work anywhere.

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When people are losing their livelihood?

You're more likely to catch this virus in a big box "essential business" than in a small shop.

The weed shops (which have been deemed essential) are limiting to one person at a time without government coersion.

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You are arguing two different things.

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and do long term damage to economic infrastructure.

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Probably too late for that.

The "big box" essential stores will reap the benefit of the stimulus while mom and pop die out.

Not to mention closing so many venues that everyone is forced into the same few venues together.

Study on how CV19 lives in air & surfaces

"The coronavirus can live for three days on some surfaces, like plastic and steel, new research suggests. Experts say the risk of consumers getting infected from touching those materials is still low, although they offered additional warnings about how long the virus survives in air, which may have important implications for medical workers.

The new study, published Tuesday in The New England Journal of Medicine, also suggests that the virus disintegrates over the course of a day on cardboard, lessening the worry among consumers that deliveries will spread the virus during this period of staying and working from home.

When the virus becomes suspended in droplets smaller than five micrometers — known as aerosols — it can stay suspended for about a half-hour, researchers said, before drifting down and settling on surfaces where it can linger for hours. (In the study’s experimental setup, the virus stayed suspended for three hours, but it would drift down much sooner under most conditions.) The finding on aerosol in particular is inconsistent with the World Health Organization’s position that the virus is not transported by air.

The virus lives longest on plastic and steel, surviving for up to 72 hours. But the amount of viable virus decreases sharply over this time. It also does poorly on copper, surviving four hours. On cardboard, it survives up to 24 hours, which suggests packages that arrive in the mail should have only low levels of the virus — unless the delivery person has coughed or sneezed on it or has handled it with contaminated hands."





So this is an issue I have with this whole "social distancing" thing. It can stay in the air for 30 minutes and can stay on surfaces for up to 3 days. If you're at the fricking cash register waiting in line and a sick person touches something in the store or breathes/sneezing/coughs into the air you're fricked either way. So yeah.....

Crafting is essential as home Depot

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You are arguing two different things.

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That a one size fits all policy is actually worse?

It seems people got caught up in the distancing fad without considering all possibilities and went for the most restrictive. shite, Washington and Oregon shut down parks.

Federal aid is weeks away for most, and they cant last that long

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. If you're at the fricking cash register waiting in line and a sick person touches something in the store or breathes/sneezing/coughs into the air you're fricked either way. 

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Not necessarily. You can smear your hands with CV19 juices and as long as you wait until you have washed your hands properly before you start jamming your fingers in your nose, you will be fine.

It can live in the air, but 3 hours is only under certain conditions, like low temperatures and humidity and no air movement. As you are walking around the grocery store, you are pushing air around. And it is unknown how long the virus is viable, just because it is alive in the air or on a surface does not mean the virus is healthy enough to infect someone.

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the posterchild for non-essential business.
To you!!!

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No one is going to die from not getting glue, glitter, and posterboard for four weeks.

Good for hobby lobby.