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History Nerds: Which U.S. military commander least deserved his fifth star?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:37 pm
The Candidates (by date of rank):
Admiral William D. Leahy
General George C. Marshall
Admiral Ernest J. King
General Douglas MacArthur
Admiral Chester Nimitz
General Dwight D. Eisenhower
General Henry H. Arnold
Admiral William "Bull" Halsey
General Omar Bradley
Admiral William D. Leahy
General George C. Marshall
Admiral Ernest J. King
General Douglas MacArthur
Admiral Chester Nimitz
General Dwight D. Eisenhower
General Henry H. Arnold
Admiral William "Bull" Halsey
General Omar Bradley
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:39 pm to RollTide1987
Halsey seems like a good candidate here.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:40 pm to RollTide1987
yes
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:41 pm to RollTide1987
Washington always has 1 star higher.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:41 pm to RollTide1987
This butthole
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:42 pm to RollTide1987
MacArthur and it's not close. Lost the Phillipines, nearly lost Korea, fired for insubordination.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:42 pm to teke184
quote:“Admiral Halsey notified me
Halsey seems like a good candidate here.
He had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea
I had another look and I had a cup of tea and butter pie
Butter pie?…”
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:43 pm to RollTide1987
Ernest King never actually commanded a ship or fleet during war I don’t think.
That’s all I got.
That’s all I got.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:45 pm to RollTide1987
Arnold
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:46 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
MacArthur and it's not close. Lost the Phillipines, nearly lost Korea, fired for insubordination
This is my choice also.
If he hadnt split the troops up so much or advanced to the Chinese border then the Korean peninsula might look very different today.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:50 pm to RollTide1987
I didn’t realize that Patton wasn’t on the highest ranking general list.
He was an arse and he was insubordinate but damn if he couldn’t get an army into action and win the battles. He was a good tactician too.
He was an arse and he was insubordinate but damn if he couldn’t get an army into action and win the battles. He was a good tactician too.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:54 pm to RollTide1987
MacArthur was a mama’s boy. She was the military genius.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:54 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
MacArthur and it's not close.
He also had a plan to drop atomic bombs on 50 Chinese targets...considering circumstances today, it might not have been a bad idea after all.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:57 pm to RollTide1987
MacArthur for deserting his men.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:00 pm to sms151t
MacArthur for deserting his men.
—He was ordered to by his CNC, FDR.
—He was ordered to by his CNC, FDR.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:01 pm to RollTide1987
MacArthur
Marshall
Bradley
Marshall
Bradley
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:01 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:08 pm to Eightballjacket
My vote is MacArthur. He repeatedly promised that reinforcements would come to the aid of his men on Bataan when he knew good and well that wasn’t going to happen. He couldn’t even be straight forward to his men. What a jerk!
Then he advocated for the invasion of Peleliu to guard his flank for the coming invasion of the Philippines. You see, Peleliu had an airfield and he wanted that taken out. Anyway, the costly, bloody invasion didn’t even need to take place because the armed forces had air and naval superiority. They could’ve bypassed the island and starved the Japs like they had done with other meaningless islands.
Then he advocated for the invasion of Peleliu to guard his flank for the coming invasion of the Philippines. You see, Peleliu had an airfield and he wanted that taken out. Anyway, the costly, bloody invasion didn’t even need to take place because the armed forces had air and naval superiority. They could’ve bypassed the island and starved the Japs like they had done with other meaningless islands.
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:09 pm to cypresstiger
MacArthur's biggest sins were
1 letting his air force get destroyed on the ground despite having advance warning of an imminent attack; a blunder that would be repeated in Korea when he ignored intelligence reports of Chinese troops massing along the border
2 neglecting to move supplies into the Bataan peninsula in a timely manner
3 failing to split his command when he evacuated. After Bataan fell, Mindanao was still combat effective but being in Wainwright's chain of command, had to surrender when he did. With an independent command, they could have resisted several more months
1 letting his air force get destroyed on the ground despite having advance warning of an imminent attack; a blunder that would be repeated in Korea when he ignored intelligence reports of Chinese troops massing along the border
2 neglecting to move supplies into the Bataan peninsula in a timely manner
3 failing to split his command when he evacuated. After Bataan fell, Mindanao was still combat effective but being in Wainwright's chain of command, had to surrender when he did. With an independent command, they could have resisted several more months
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:12 pm to RollTide1987
Mac
For personal reasons
For personal reasons
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