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re: Helicopter Crash in Lafourche Parish

Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:09 am to
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7785 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Google "helicopter autorotation", you might learn something.

I don't need to. I already know about it. I've flown offshore numerous times and taken water survival, BOSIET, etc more times than I wanted to. I learned how to push on the corner of a window and swim out. Got the certs and cards to prove it. Probably flown more times than most here and anyone that knows how to swim can get out if a helicopter after it lands in the water if they are still conscious. But whatever. I'm sure 90% of you are pilots.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 10:12 am
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:19 am to
Auto-rotation baw
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:29 am to
How many times have you flown in a helicopter? You could probably multiply your number by 10 and still won’t be close to the number of flights that I have been on.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 10:31 am
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6819 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Probably flown more times than most here and anyone that knows how to swim can get out if a helicopter after it lands in the water if they are still conscious. But whatever. I'm sure 90% of you are pilots.


This is irrelevant information.
A couple of the pilots I regularly have, have actually been through some serious situations including landing in the water. The worst chances for survival are during landing and take off. The best chances are with higher altitude.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9458 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:58 am to
If you know so much about helicopters, why would you say that an engine failure at altitude would be fatal for all on board? It will fall like a stone if the pilot decides to place it all in God's hands, but if he continues to pilot his aircraft and has the proper skills, a hard landing is in your future, not necessarily a fatal crash.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9458 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:08 am to
That guy is either an idiot or a contrarian, and possibly both.

I know one pilot and one passenger who survivied hard landings after autorotating down. The pilot was in BlackHawk in Iraq and landed on packed soil/desert outside of Balad. He was fine, but a UH-60 has energy absorbing pilot seats that that collapse on impact.

The passenger friend went down on a PHI helicopter in the marsh. He hurt his back, but said the gnats were the worst part while waiting for help to arrive.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
83400 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:49 am to
quote:

I don't need to. I already know about it. I've flown offshore numerous times and taken water survival, BOSIET, etc more times than I wanted to. I learned how to push on the corner of a window and swim out. Got the certs and cards to prove it. Probably flown more times than most here and anyone that knows how to swim can get out if a helicopter after it lands in the water if they are still conscious. But whatever. I'm sure 90% of you are pilots.



If you know about it and have been through all those classes, then why did you post this:

quote:

And if the engine goes out at altitude, everyone on board is a goner.



That is a 1000% false statement
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

I don't need to. I already know about it. I've flown offshore numerous times and taken water survival, BOSIET, etc more times than I wanted to. I learned how to push on the corner of a window and swim out. Got the certs and cards to prove it. Probably flown more times than most here and anyone that knows how to swim can get out if a helicopter after it lands in the water if they are still conscious. But whatever. I'm sure 90% of you are pilots.
Cool you have flown a whole bunch. How about next time ask the pilot about auto rotation if you think engine failure will cause the helicopter to fall like a rock. Offshore workers are worse than flight nurses. Think because they fly on helicopters often they know everything about them.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19853 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:32 pm to
I knew the passenger was a great guy
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15720 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:37 pm to
I knew the pilot.
RIP to both.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32089 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:42 pm to
quote:


I always thought it was BS. A helicopter will impact the water pretty damn hard. And if the engine goes out at altitude, everyone on board is a goner


Google "autorotation"

Quit talking about shite you don't know about
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Auto-rotation baw

Having been a fixed wing aircraft and helicopter mechanic for 25+ years I offer this.
A helicopter can land safely after an engine failure by auto rotation. A lot of variables are involved. One being altitude. Engine failure at take off or landing with not enough altitude to maintain a forward decent would not allow for an auto rotation.

On every main rotor blade change an auto rotation is performed to to set the main rotor rpm. You go up I forget exactly how high and do an auto rotation checking the main rotor rpms. If not correct, adjustments of the pitch links is made and you do it again until the proper rpms are met.
Been through a lot of these for maintenance, never in an actual emergency.

With all that being said an auto rotation can be performed as long as the helicopter can maintain a forward decent. A controlled landing can be made, although it may be a bit rough.
But then again some pilots always land rough. Just kidding. Some of the best people I’ve ever met were helicopter pilots.

Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15720 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 4:43 pm to
You have no clue what you’re talking about, you dumb Boudreaux.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26037 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:36 pm to
At least one of those families will be hiring this firm

There isn't a better Helicopter crash litigation law firm in the United States than these guys.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:53 pm to
I watched a big ole baw come up out the window feet first during HUET. Just bobbed up like a cork
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15720 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:14 pm to
His family will be taken care of. That’s why these operators carry insurance.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24275 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:15 pm to
Have they released the pilots name yet?
Posted by EastCoastCajun
New Bedford Massachusetts
Member since Aug 2015
2045 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

There isn't a better Helicopter crash litigation law firm in the United States than these guys.


My nephew died in a helicopter crash 4 yrs ago. HIs widow hired them.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15720 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:26 pm to
Not yet. Are you in the industry?
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