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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21729 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

What day did that last storm hit? A week ago?

Francine? Wednesday night
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13637 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:12 pm to
Jim, my dear friend,

You are spot on. Meteorology is a soft science, much in the vein of sociology and psychology.. Our best minds do not go into these fields. There might be a handful of intelligent meteorologists out there, and I would assume these are the ones who design the computer models that all the lesser meteorologists depend on to guess what the weather is to be. The goalposts are constantly on the move. A few years of amateur model following on the internet puts the average person on about the same level as “professional” meteorologists.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:14 pm to
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What day did that last storm hit? A week ago?


2 weeks ago.

And I wont tell you to look at the GFS for 2 weeks from now. I know its too far to be dependable, but....
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18853 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:14 pm to
and when they do say it is going here 2 days out, and it shifts due to an influence that materializes faster, or slower affecting the track - folks like you will bitch about that as well.

Jim, I like you - i think you are a decent poster, but there is no definitive science. there is no definitive answer. all they can do is go "if the influence to the west is slow arriving, it is PCB, if it gets here faster it is Apalachicola - hence the cone.

it is going to shift - models are not going to always be 100% accurate - they can never be that accurate. sure it is guess work, but all they can do is put out - in this cone area prepare.

what people do with the info is on them - yes it sucks evacuating, only to have a storm shift and the area expected gets little - shite happens, but if they didn't warn people to prepare, those same people would bitch that they weren't given enough info to prepare.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Jim, I like you - i think you are a decent poster

No.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:16 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

what people do with the info is on them - yes it sucks evacuating, only to have a storm shift and the area expected gets little - shite happens, but if they didn't warn people to prepare, those same people would bitch that they weren't given enough info to prepare.

They'll even bitch if they're given all the info they need to prepare.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102670 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:17 pm to
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coming in quite a bit deepe



Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130242 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:17 pm to
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And I wont tell you to look at the GFS for 2 weeks from now. I know its too far to be dependable, but....



Am I reading it right that in two weeks they have a hurricane just parking in the SW Gulf for like 4 days?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:20 pm to
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Am I reading it right that in two weeks they have a hurricane just parking in the SW Gulf for like 4 days?






Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Our best minds do not go into these fields.


May you never live another day without stubbing your toe. May your erections only come at mass.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105284 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:21 pm to
I like you Legend, even if you don't like me. You try to do a good job in these weather threads, even though you have some blind spots, like we all do.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42274 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:22 pm to
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. A few years of amateur model following on the internet puts the average person on about the same level as “professional” meteorologists.


deltaland
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3968 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:22 pm to
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May your erections only come at mass.


lol, he will have to get mother involved
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14281 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:22 pm to



This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 1:25 pm
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
10287 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

TulaneLSU

quote:

A few years of amateur model following on the internet puts the average person on about the same level as “professional” meteorologists.


You sir, are a fraud. You claim academic prowess and the need for politeness in our society, yet you lower the academia of weather science to be compared to "internet study."

You are nothing more than a carpetbagger dressed in fantastical musings of plagiarized John Kennedy Toole picaresque novels.

Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18853 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:25 pm to
oh I know Legend, I was just trying to make a point.

meteorologists, like most others, are damned if they do and damned if they don't. someone is inevitably going to complain.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:25 pm to
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You are nothing more than a carpetbagger dressed in fantastical musings of plagiarized John Kennedy Toole picaresque novels.


And, I have it on good authority that Mother used to be a lady of the night and would often entertain gentleman callers at the family home. Hence, all of the current day whore strangling.*











*Allegedly
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I like you Legend, even if you don't like me. You try to do a good job in these weather threads, even though you have some blind spots, like we all do.

I do not like you, Jim. I also do not care if you like me.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105284 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:27 pm to
Suit yourself.
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