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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by d2
NC
Member since Jan 2009
461 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Or if you want to physically help out, message me and I’ll give you my # and you can come out here and help us.


I have a friend and 4 of his ex infantry that are mountain trained and want to help. Do you know what papers they need for search and rescue/supply delivery by foot?

Also, I live in Concord NC and have a room if you need it.

To anyone with medical contacts and planning to make the trip up here, the main supply needed per my contact in Black Mountain is body bags, a refrigeration truck and lots of prayers.

Edit to add
Therefore, if you plan to move people, resources, or equipment into western North Carolina, you MUST coordinate plans and movements through the NCEM-BEOC.

You can email your supply logistics or movement requests to: BEOC@ncdps.gov, make sure to begin your Subject Line with: Logistics Support.

Please include the following info:

What are you moving? Why you need special access.
When do you plan to move and from where?
Where are you going?
When will they arrive at the “border to Western NC” and where?
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6246 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:07 pm to
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We live in a time where people legitimately create their own realities. Even when they are presented with indisputable facts they refuse to accept it. It is like they willfully refuse to learn. They've locked on to a few bullshite sources that share the same primary goal......manipulation. They have no desire to verify anything, and will lap up every bit of bullshite they are fed. Nothing can penetrate it.


i think there's also an element of them denying, or downplaying, any event of which they cannot pretend to be a victim...
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:53 pm to
It's called cognitive dissonance.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
20365 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54980 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:17 pm to
I mean, I am sure there were plenty of things that run on electricity/battery that have been helpful to people.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
20365 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:19 pm to
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I mean, I am sure there were plenty of things that run on electricity/battery that have been helpful to people


No doubt. But once run out of juice now what? In middle of sticks.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53435 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:21 pm to
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But once run out of juice now what? In middle of sticks.


Solar comes in handy
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3291 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:14 pm to
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We live in a time where people legitimately create their own realities. Even when they are presented with indisputable facts they refuse to accept it. It is like they willfully refuse to learn. They've locked on to a few bullshite sources that share the same primary goal......manipulation. They have no desire to verify anything, and will lap up every bit of bullshite they are fed. Nothing can penetrate it.




Its amazing how you can write this and have zero self-reflection.. It just goes to show how deeply people are set in their beliefs no matter how irrational and short-sighted those beliefs are. I would laugh but honestly its not amusing...just depressing.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
47059 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:16 pm to
Of all threads why be a dick in this one?
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3291 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Of all threads why be a dick in this one?




You have a point.


But I didn't start the shite.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36409 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:23 pm to
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You sure you want to ski that ice?


My "ice" skis in Colorado would basically be powder skis in NC.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42922 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:27 pm to
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But once run out of juice now what? In middle of sticks.


Solar comes in handy


Are you talking about small solar panels to recharge things like cell phones, rechargeable batteries for flashlights, etc, or are you talking about solar panels large enough to provide significant power. The portable panels for recharging small devices are handy in these type situations, but residential solar is not. I researched rooftop residential solar panels before I bought a backup generator two months or so ago. If you have just solar panels then they hook into the grid. If the grid goes down, they turn off. If you pay for a very expensive battery system and some type of switch and integrator things (I don't know the name of it) then the solar will recharge your battery and your house can draw power from the battery. However, the batteries do not last very long and while the solar panels are charging the battery the integrator thing does not let your house get power from the solar panels. So it sounds like solar is less than ideal for extended power outages.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10290 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:35 pm to
This link will take you to pictures of Douglas Lake five days ago.
The water you see almost all came from North Carolina. Douglas is spilling as much as it can.
This is what Douglas looks like midsummer, full to the almost brim.
Winter, Douglas is one of the TVA dams that they draw down to nearly mudflats to hold back what would be flood waters as the winter rains come.

Imagine if you can, dropping that water level seventeen feet down...which is where it was when Helene came. TVA worked! Their dams held. the down stream/river flooding could have been disastrous., But it wasn't. And that means the folks downstream can help the folks up stream.

LINK
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16719 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:42 pm to
What The frick. I really can't imagine. Those people probably normally have a nice view outside of their apartment window. But now there's a giant 20 ft deep raging river filled with debris surrounding you.

Unfortunately I really feel as if the death toll is being severly undercounted as of now.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75461 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:44 pm to
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Still plenty of value to be had. I have been looking at a cabin outside boone. Nice area, big lot. 3 bed 2.5 bath. Big basement/game room and big deck. 300k
Near a river or creek? At the base of a mountain or on the side of a mountain?
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6246 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:51 pm to
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But I didn't start the shite.


you started it by being an imbecile...
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
13505 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:53 pm to
An FYI for folks wanting to head.to WNC to help.

My cousin works in the Greensboro city clerk's office and shared this on Facebook from the city clerk of Boone.

quote:

The Town is so grateful for the outpour of donations and volunteers that have come together to support them. At this time, they are inundated with volunteers and supplies. Please donate money or send resources and volunteers elsewhere. Their infrastructure is unable to handle more people, supplies or donations right now. They are very grateful for the outpour that they have received.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
67231 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Its amazing how you can write this and have zero self-reflection.. It just goes to show how deeply people are set in their beliefs no matter how irrational and short-sighted those beliefs are. I would laugh but honestly its not amusing...just depressing.

Funny, you're one of the morons what I said applies to. When everyone calls you a moron you are a fricking moron.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42922 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:04 pm to
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An FYI for folks wanting to head.to WNC to help.

My cousin works in the Greensboro city clerk's office and shared this on Facebook from the city clerk of Boone.

quote:
The Town is so grateful for the outpour of donations and volunteers that have come together to support them. At this time, they are inundated with volunteers and supplies. Please donate money or send resources and volunteers elsewhere. Their infrastructure is unable to handle more people, supplies or donations right now. They are very grateful for the outpour that they have received.


Isn't that why NC is asking people to coordinate with its state agency so volunteers can go where they are needed?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53435 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:09 pm to
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An FYI for folks wanting to head.to WNC to help.


Traffic is a bitch right now. Worker convoys, national guard, individuals coming home, and well intentioned people coming wanting to help. Not to mention businesses have started to open and people are starting to go back to work.

Best to just stay away. There are more than enough volunteers.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 4:10 pm
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