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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105286 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

Am I reading these charts from NWS that it’s currently only producing TS winds? I know surge is the killer but sort of surprising.


The NWS is infallible. Repeat after me.
Posted by Veuve Clicquot
Member since May 2021
7 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:16 pm to
We’re not in the same county as that tornado, but they told folks to write their names, DOBs, and any other important information in sharpie on their arms if they stayed and didn’t evacuate.

Our pool has waves you could surf on from the wind and still going strong.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14285 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:16 pm to
Thanks. I've seen the trends before but forgot how to get them. Looks like gust to 67 just now. That'll take a few weak/sick trees down.
Posted by cadillac7563
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2014
2010 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:17 pm to
The lawn chairs may topple too
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64515 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:17 pm to
I'm sure it's been discussed but I have a long busy day and haven't had time to read up, I saw a headline saying one of the hurricane hunting planes had an issue and was stuck in the eye? What happened there? I assume they got out??
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:18 pm to
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Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177300 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:18 pm to
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The NWS is infallible. Repeat after me.


Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

think wind is the least of worries for Florida.


Not sure about that. Trees are coming down around me and I am all the way on the Atlantic coast in Jacksonville
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:19 pm to
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I'm sure it's been discussed but I have a long busy day and haven't had time to read up, I saw a headline saying one of the hurricane hunting planes had an issue and was stuck in the eye? What happened there? I assume they got out??

It wasn't an issue. They took time to launch and unmanned research drone and then hung around to figure out the best place to return to. There was an official statement put out.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by Water
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41043 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:20 pm to
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Monticello and Live Oak look like the unlucky places that will get the eyewall but not the eye meaning no break from damaging winds and torrential rain


RIP The Busy Bee??
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64515 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:21 pm to
Thanks Legend
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:21 pm to


This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 11:22 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:21 pm to
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Thanks Legend

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41043 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

think wind is the least of worries for Florida. The surge seems very abnormally high and wide. I mean you’ve got flooding in Tampa over 100 miles from the core of this thing.


Reminds me of Katrina

Large size storms seem to outperform on surge
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:25 pm to
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Reminds me of Katrina

Large size storms seem to outperform on surge

Similar end result with different routes to get there. Helene was destined to be a big storm pushing a lot of water due to it forming out of the CAG. Katrina got to its size via multiple EWRCs which grew its windfield.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14285 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:25 pm to
Thanks MrLSU. Here is another one showing the record being smashed.

Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1615 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:26 pm to
So 9’ of surge and rising per that gauge, and what was their projection…. I’m firmly in the path of hurricanes and I truly think NWS dramatizes wind and surge for tropical systems these last few years. So far I haven’t seen any weather stations corroborate the projected wind speeds, even in the outer bands that wouldn’t be affected by outages.

If anyone has data to show otherwise, I would love to see it.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:26 pm to
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Helene was destined to be a big storm pushing a lot of water due to it forming out of the CAG. Katrina got to its size via multiple EWRCs which grew its windfield.


Well hell, Helene tried an eyewall replacement last night without an eyewall to replace.

Oh and I see the hurricane truthers are out tonight.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 11:27 pm
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