re: Health insurance premium for 2018 is absolutely outrageous

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We should get away from tradition health insurance and have patients pay the Dr. directly. Have some type of catastrophic insurance. I think that most health care cost is the last 2 months of life.

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This ^^^^^. In my late teens to mid thirties, I only needed to use health insurance a small handful of times. Without the infinite layers of bureaucracy, costs would go way down.

I've seen better premiums in the quad

There will be significant contraction in the US this year as self-employed people are forced to shut down their business and join a company who offers group insurance plans. And those who don't will be forced to increase their rates to make up for this enormous cost.

I can see solo attorneys/physicians leaving their law/medical practices to join a large firm or hospital.

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There will be significant contraction in the US this year as self-employed people are forced to shut down their business and join a company who offers group insurance plans. And those who don't will be forced to increase their rates to make up for this enormous cost.

I can see solo attorneys/physicians leaving their law/medical practices to join a large firm or hospital.

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So, the ACA stifles small business creation and innovation?

It's so nice listening to the poor people and people with pre-existing conditions talk about how without the ACA they wouldn't be able to afford insurance... yeah that's bc everybody else is getting fricked in the arse so you can pay jack shite for coverage.

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This is so dumb and overplayed. Anything you'd go to the emergency room for in America is treated the exact same in Canada. If it's an emergency, it'll get taken care of IMMEDIATELY and the only thing you'll pay for is the $30 ambulance ride.

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Right, which means if the imaging or diagnostic is required for stabilization, you are transferred to a facility with the machine you need.

If you need the machine for any diagnostic purposes, like do you have cancer, you are waiting 6 weeks for CT and 10 weeks for MRI. The wait for "elective" surgeries, like hip/knee replacement, are worse.

It's not overplayed. It's a real problem in Canada and the UK, and its acknowledged by both governments. It's a direct result of a single payer rationing the available supply of care.
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ETA: Customer satisfaction polls? Really?

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$3100 a month

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frick that noise..

I'm self-employed and I self insured in 2016, this year I'm with a company called US Health Advisors and I only pay about a 1000 a month. It's not the greatest policy , but it gets me compliant and it does cover some things i was really worried about.

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Right, which means if the imaging or diagnostic is required for stabilization, you are transferred to a facility with the machine you need.

If you need the machine for any diagnostic purposes, like do you have cancer, you are waiting 6 weeks for CT and 10 weeks for MRI. The wait for "elective" surgeries, like hip/knee replacement, are worse.

It's not overplayed. It's a real problem in Canada and the UK, and its acknowledged by both governments. It's a direct result of a single payer rationing the available supply of care.
LINK

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I'll take waiting a couple months over a lifetime of crippling debt. The most financially responsible citizen can have their lives frickED in America trying to pay back medical debt from some sort of injury sustained under no fault of their own, while that same person could be treated in Canada for less than their weekly grocery expenses.

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I'll take waiting a couple months over a lifetime of crippling debt. The most financially responsible citizen can have their lives frickED in America trying to pay back medical debt from some sort of injury sustained under no fault of their own, while that same person could be treated in Canada for less than their weekly grocery expenses.

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I just can't see a system like Canada's ever happening in the US. The health lobby is too strong.

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I just can't see a system like Canada's ever happening in the US. The health lobby is too strong.

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There's your issue with most shite, the lobbyists. They're the ones that have folks in this thread truly believing we're somehow better off than our neighbors to the north or damn near every European country.