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Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:45 am to Displaced
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How is this possible? Dick Grayson just told us that if we believe in God, only good things will be in our future?
christians suck as well? i dunno. i know you're being sarcastic.
i've only every been with my wife since i was 20 YO, but if i found myself single again, i'm not going to pretend it would be easy to wait for marriage again, but i currently would hope i hold myself to that standard still.
But i'm also not going to be expecting sex on the first date with a divorced mom. and it's unlikely i'm going to find a date with a never married 35 yo woman who's waiting for marriage as well.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:45 am to bayoudude
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it’s such a financial burden for any work couple to have a family.
How so? If daycare costs exceed one of the salaries, then the parents are just stupid.
If you both make decent enough money to justify paying $20k in childcare every year, then the burden would be if one was SAH.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:45 am to burger bearcat
The first page of this thread is so telling 
You have men explaining a general rule with lots of specific examples and 2 of the 3 women going “nuh uh, that’s not MY experience, so everything is fine!” just lol
I wouldn’t say “women” bit off more than they can chew because none of the women in the dating game today had any say in the changes that resulted in today’s system. For a lot of them, though, their complacent acceptance of a status quo that is unacceptable is going to bite them in the arse down the road, for sure. It’s not the fault of today’s marriage-age women that the system is so rigged in their favor and against men, but if they choose to rely on that system and the promise that Captain Save-A-Ho is always on the way, they have no one to blame but themselves if fate doesn’t conspire to rescue them from their own bad decisions.
On the bright side, it’s literally never been a better time to be a marriage-age woman who cooks and cleans and keeps the house and wants to be a mom. There’s never been a bigger shortage of that than today. I’m not saying that’s the one and only way for women to be happy, but I am saying that any woman who checks those boxes and stays in shape will be virtually guaranteed to land a high-value man simply because these virtues are in such short supply.
You have men explaining a general rule with lots of specific examples and 2 of the 3 women going “nuh uh, that’s not MY experience, so everything is fine!” just lol
I wouldn’t say “women” bit off more than they can chew because none of the women in the dating game today had any say in the changes that resulted in today’s system. For a lot of them, though, their complacent acceptance of a status quo that is unacceptable is going to bite them in the arse down the road, for sure. It’s not the fault of today’s marriage-age women that the system is so rigged in their favor and against men, but if they choose to rely on that system and the promise that Captain Save-A-Ho is always on the way, they have no one to blame but themselves if fate doesn’t conspire to rescue them from their own bad decisions.
On the bright side, it’s literally never been a better time to be a marriage-age woman who cooks and cleans and keeps the house and wants to be a mom. There’s never been a bigger shortage of that than today. I’m not saying that’s the one and only way for women to be happy, but I am saying that any woman who checks those boxes and stays in shape will be virtually guaranteed to land a high-value man simply because these virtues are in such short supply.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:46 am to Richard Grayson
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Without accepting God as universal truth and love your life has no meaning.
Not necessarily true. Life has the meaning you give it. One can give meaning to their life without believing in religion.
With that said, I think it really does help. So many people have shunned religion and find themselves feeling depressed, worthless, pointless, and directionless.
Every human has value. Every human is worthy of love from someone. Every human has capacity for both good and evil. However, so many see themselves as without value or the world as a ticking time bomb about to destroy itself so they and nothing they do matters. They see no value in themselves and thus seek value elsewhere.
So many people work out their insecurities through dating. Those who fear being alone become people pleasers to narcissists. Those who were abused often seek out sexual gratification as a way to validate themselves. Those who are insecure about their appearances behave jealously with great suspicion of their partners. Many fear intimacy and thus treat their romantic partners as a commodity to be used and discarded. Some who don’t love themselves seek wealth or status so that praise and attention from others will fill the void.
When you have to rely on attention or praise from others to feel like you have value, you will constantly make yourself subject to and controlled by the whims of others.
Much of this stems from not having a healthy self-love. Religion, when used properly, can seriously help with this, but isn’t the only pathway. Truly believing yourself to be chosen by God and being made in his image is a great way to ensure at least a baseline self-esteem above self-loathing so as not to develop quite si many toxic dating habits.
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:46 am to Richard Grayson
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Shun the father and he will repay your sins 7 fold upon your children.
Well that's pretty damn petty of the big G.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:46 am to OKBoomerSooner
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There’s never been a bigger shortage of that than today.
Bingo.
If you're not finding a good lady, the problem is on you. There are plenty out there.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:48 am to OKBoomerSooner
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Captain Save-A-Ho
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Bingo.
If you're not finding a good lady, the problem is on you. There are plenty out there.
That's quite literally the exact opposite of what he just said.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:48 am to questionable
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Maybe the next generation of girls will actually learn how to cook/clean instead of stressing about which series to watch on Netflix while sipping on their pumpkin spice latte.
This is the issue I see particularly for the middle class/suburbia group. The women are spoiled and want to be pampered and won’t do any house chores. They may have a career but the man ends up working his job then having to do a lot of the house chores after work and once the sex frequency starts to decline after a few years they realize she is just another mouth to feed and not pulling her weight in the marriage nor is she really that fun to be around.
Marriage takes work and you have to agree to certain duties expected of each other prior to taking that step. It’s non traditional, but I think long term couples should move in together a year or so before engagement to “practice” before committing. See if you’re compatible under the same roof every day
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:49 am to kingbob
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Life has the meaning you give it.
That you find in it.
Its about discovery, not forcing everything into a category. You change, not the world.
There's millions of great possible mates in this country that dudes overlook because of their strict dating habits, and the inability to understand social cues.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:50 am to The Torch
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It's the cow and the milk story.
When they spread their legs for every man that comes by why put a ring on it.
Vaguely recall a tik tok trend about this. Soemthing along the lines where the guy would film his girl while lip singing to the song with the lyrics "can't make a wife out of a hoe"
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:52 am to tigerbandpiccolo
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Because the only things that make women a good partner are cooking and cleaning?
No.
They need to iron shirts and give good BJs too
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:52 am to deltaland
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This is the issue I see particularly for the middle class/suburbia group. The women are spoiled and want to be pampered and won’t do any house chores. They may have a career but the man ends up working his job then having to do a lot of the house chores after work and once the sex frequency starts to decline after a few years they realize she is just another mouth to feed and not pulling her weight in the marriage nor is she really that fun to be around.
While that can and is certainly true, this thread totally ignores the other side of the coin. Theres a shite ton of dudes that go to work all day, come home expecting chores to be done and dinner to be cooked while they sit in their recliner and pound 8 beers. After they've eaten the dinner they complained about they go to bed and get pissy if their wife doesnt want to have sex with their drunk arse.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:52 am to deltaland
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They may have a career but the man ends up working his job then having to do a lot of the house chores after work
I have a problem with this notion.
If both work, all house chores should be split. Cooking, cleaning, child rearing, laundry, yardwork, etc.
Division of labor is pivotal. There is no such thing as "woman's chores." MFer, what would you do if you lived alone? Are they still women's chores then?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:55 am to deltaland
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That’s not a common thing though. And is dangerous as it increases the chances of complications with the baby
Medical care exists to make it possible but your average woman can’t afford it
You are exactly right, my friend.
The tactic of arguing a point from that one, extreme exceptional situation, is typical of the manner in which most women argue important issues. They argue from emotion, using exceptional and rare cases to advocate an issue across the board.
It is prevalent in the abortion debate when pro-abortion advocates bring in the "hard cases" "yeah, yeah, but, what about rape and incest?" Well what are the overall percentages and numbers of such cases? Less than one percent? Less than half of one percent? A standard for millions of cases should not be set by .5% of all cases.
The same applies in these situations. "Where are all the good men?" They're all around you, but you refuse to "settle" for a man who doesn't have the sixes, and the rest are invisible to you; or, they're in your "Friend Zone" never to be let out.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:58 am to Scruffy
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Studies show that women with more than 10 sexual partners in their past get divorced at much higher rates.
Now what’s the rates for men that do it? That was my point. At least that’s my stance on it. She didn’t have any kids or other health issues (other than mental
). I guess I just look at it from a different angle than most, for sure 
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
I wrote a poem once
Women
Can’t live with’em
Can’t live without ‘em
Women
Women
Can’t live with’em
Can’t live without ‘em
Women
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:58 am to Displaced
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There is no such thing as "woman's chores."
Married couple, in bed asleep, it's midnight and you here the sound of glass breaking downstairs....
Is it a man or a woman's job to go downstairs and investigate?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:00 am to S
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wrote a poem once
Women
Can’t live with’em
Can’t live without ‘em
Women
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