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Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:23 pm to Thundercles
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It is a relatively dumb diet.
Sure, for people who have no understanding how the human body works I can certainly see that.. We've been force fed the food pyramid for ever which is the absolute worst thing to follow period.. But people still believe it to be the way...
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you'll end up in a calorie deficit
Not a terrible thing if weight loss is your goal.. but this is untrue.. even on carnivore I still eat 2000 + calories
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The reality is unless you're a fairly wealthy person with a lot of free time it's extremely difficult to sustain the cost and time of cooking a variety of high quality meats that you would actually want to eat for weeks on end.
Absolutely false.. you can literally eat hot dogs and bologna if necessary.. plus the time thing is just crap.. it's not labor intensive to cook meat and do it in advance if necessary..
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Like sure, if I could eat ribeyes and filets for every meal of course I'd do it, but that's just not the world most of us live in.
It can be if you want it to be your reality.. it ain't that damn difficult
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:29 pm to Norway
Yes. Basically an elimination diet. I've since added dairy, fruit, and some vegetables. I do take vitamins/supplements as insurance.
I've never felt better.
I've never felt better.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:31 pm to Norway
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Carnivore Diet
Keto
Ketovore
Caveman
Lion
lots of diets people have success with. But they all center around 1 thing.
WHOLE FOODS
Little to no processed foods.
Just dropping bread products to a bare minimum and only as an exception would do people a ton of good. Also, sparingly use seed oils. Use Olive oil, butter, tallow, lard.
When you do eat processed foods (this includes bread) just keep it in moderation.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:33 pm to Norway
I've lost 40 pounds literally just counting my macros. There's no magic diet that's good for this and that.
Carnivore, keto, Paleo. All comes down to thermodynamics.
If cutting out carbs is good for your actual health then go for it.
Otherwise don't do something cause some guy on T and Tren is posting about how much weight they lost on it
Carnivore, keto, Paleo. All comes down to thermodynamics.
If cutting out carbs is good for your actual health then go for it.
Otherwise don't do something cause some guy on T and Tren is posting about how much weight they lost on it
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:34 pm to Norway
I’ve got a coworker who does this and no booze for a few months and a time. He goes back to normal then cycles back on, but the weight loss is impressive when he’s doing it.
The booze consumption is also impressive when he falls off.
The booze consumption is also impressive when he falls off.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:34 pm to Norway
I felt good on it, but I’m time poor and so it was hard to keep up with.
It’s probably a lot closer to what our diet was in nature, and going all meat, or close to it, reduces your exposure from everything from pesticides to plastics to seed oils.
It’s probably a lot closer to what our diet was in nature, and going all meat, or close to it, reduces your exposure from everything from pesticides to plastics to seed oils.
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:35 pm to CrystalPreserves
Wrong.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:35 pm to Norway
I’ve done it a few times, it’s similar to going on keto.
About the third day you will be exhausted, and I got cranky, but if you can fight through it you will drop 8-10 lbs pretty quick.
About the third day you will be exhausted, and I got cranky, but if you can fight through it you will drop 8-10 lbs pretty quick.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:36 pm to TheMollusk
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Imagine being this fricking wrong. Go take your statins and stfu.
A fat persons worst nightmare is cutting sugar/carbs out of their diet.
Therefore they call it dumb & a fad.
Funny how I've never seen a fat person on a meat based/low carb diet.
Every obese person that I see at the grocery has a cart full of cereal, mountain dew, white bread, cakes etc.
I never see steak, eggs, salmon, and maybe some greens in the cart
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:37 pm to Norway
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If so, how did it go (or how is it going) ?
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:43 pm to Norway
It can change your life, or it may not. It is not a fad, and it's not for the faint of heart. There's no product or supplement or trademarked regimen to follow, because in its most strict sense, it's fatty ruminant meat, salt, water and eggs. Shellfish, etc., are fine too, but the above is where you'll really see results. It's an elimination diet if nothing else.
During covid I gained 35 pounds being at the house a lot and smashing beers. 3½ months on strict carnivore and I lost 40+ pounds (though I'm not a full time cubicle worker and stay active).
Think of it this way: Nobody in this country bats an eye if your "diet" consists of carbs, sugars, processed "protein" bars full of seed oils, etc., but if god forbid you only eat ruminant meat, eggs and salt and water (which are all superfoods) and maybe some real cheese and whole foods minus the carbs, you're considered a freak destined for colon cancer.
Meanwhile, colon cancer is soaring in all age groups and the average American, circa 2024, consumes less than 2oz of ruminant meat per day - the lowest in our history during peace time.
Once you get a month in you'll likely have no desire to go back, but if you do, the great thing is that you can slowly introduce other whole foods and only eat what works for your body. Nothing satiates like ruminant meat with salt, eggs and water. You'll go through carb and sugar and processed food withdrawal, but once they subside, nothing will satiate like ruminant meat.
Finally, as mentioned above, unless that person has gone on carnivore for an extended time, disregard their opinion as opposed to people that have. You'll find that quite often the latter's experience differs wildly from the former's assumptions and opinions while they shovel simple carbs, refined sugars and seed oils down their throat 3 to 5 times a day and wonder why they're farting, belching and having grotesque looking bowel movements all day.
It is a whole foods, elimination diet, it's just not a politically correct one.
During covid I gained 35 pounds being at the house a lot and smashing beers. 3½ months on strict carnivore and I lost 40+ pounds (though I'm not a full time cubicle worker and stay active).
Think of it this way: Nobody in this country bats an eye if your "diet" consists of carbs, sugars, processed "protein" bars full of seed oils, etc., but if god forbid you only eat ruminant meat, eggs and salt and water (which are all superfoods) and maybe some real cheese and whole foods minus the carbs, you're considered a freak destined for colon cancer.
Meanwhile, colon cancer is soaring in all age groups and the average American, circa 2024, consumes less than 2oz of ruminant meat per day - the lowest in our history during peace time.
Once you get a month in you'll likely have no desire to go back, but if you do, the great thing is that you can slowly introduce other whole foods and only eat what works for your body. Nothing satiates like ruminant meat with salt, eggs and water. You'll go through carb and sugar and processed food withdrawal, but once they subside, nothing will satiate like ruminant meat.
Finally, as mentioned above, unless that person has gone on carnivore for an extended time, disregard their opinion as opposed to people that have. You'll find that quite often the latter's experience differs wildly from the former's assumptions and opinions while they shovel simple carbs, refined sugars and seed oils down their throat 3 to 5 times a day and wonder why they're farting, belching and having grotesque looking bowel movements all day.
It is a whole foods, elimination diet, it's just not a politically correct one.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:44 pm to UnAnon
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There's no magic diet that's good for this and that.
I keep saying the diet you need to use is the one that matches your lifestyle the best. For some that is fill in the blank. For me Carnivore doesn't work just like intermittent fasting doesn't work. By doesn't work I mean it doesn't fuel my body properly for my lifestyle. There is no magic bullet for everyone.
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All comes down to thermodynamics.
100%
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:44 pm to CrystalPreserves
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No, it’s a fad and it isn’t good for people with predisposed heart issues. It will just amplify those issues. Ask your personal primary doctor about it.
I did. My Dr said it was a great option. All my numbers were great while I was on it and I felt great. It’s just really hard to pass up those shrimp Poboys all the time.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:45 pm to CrystalPreserves
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it’s a fad and it isn’t good for people with predisposed heart issues
You know why this gets parroted so often? Because the diet tends to increase your LDL. You know why physicians focus so much on LDL? It's the only type of cholesterol they can manipulate with a pill.
As long as you are metabolically healthy, your LDL does not matter.
I have NAFLD and a chronic heart condition (bicuspic aortic valve, stenosis, regurgitation, and high LDL). My Hepatologist flat out told me I need to stick to the carnivore diet. As a result, I'm no longer on beta blockers or statins, and all of my blood work for both my heart and liver are now in the normal range, and my liver went from 78% fat, 322 CAP, and S3 Steatosis to completely healing itself.
It works.
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:48 pm to Norway
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Did this same Dr. also advice you to take the Covid Shot because it was safe & effective ?
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:49 pm to mudshuvl05
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mudshuvl05
Well said..
And congrats on your journey thus far ..
My personal goal is to shed 40 more pounds and get back to my college weight of 175ish..
Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:52 pm to Norway
No, I can't afford to eat much meat.
I'm fine without it.
I'm fine without it.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 1:05 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Exactly. The, "diet" in the popular sense of the word is only a, "diet" if it's not sustainable.
I keep saying the diet you need to use is the one that matches your lifestyle the best. For some that is fill in the blank. For me Carnivore doesn't work just like intermittent fasting doesn't work. By doesn't work I mean it doesn't fuel my body properly for my lifestyle. There is no magic bullet for everyone.
There's a happy medium. At the end of the day, it's best to stick to the outside perimeter of the grocery section and as far as fruits and vegetables go, try to get pesticide free (as much as is realistically possible), and in a perfect world you buy all your whole foods local and seasonal.
Outside of that it's a crap shoot. There's no such thing as an essential carb or sugar for the average human being in order to stay alive. In fact, the average person will thrive after eliminating them, as well as the insistence that the average American needs 3 full meals a day. I'd be miserable if I ate that much, but I also don't eat food that's void of nutrition thereby leaving my body hungry for more. Getting carbs, etc., out is why carnivore is so effective: high quality ruminant meat is a super food, yet it has no pesticides, but it may not be feasible for everyone just like a vegan diet for various reasons. At that point it's a diet, not a lifestyle.
Real is the word: real perishable bread, real fruits and vegetables without coatings and herbicides and other pesticides, real meat without antibiotics and such, real cooking fat, real butter, yogurt, etc. Cut out the grains and soy products. You don't need them and they're full of pesticides. The longer the ingredient list, the less of it you need. The less perishable it is, the longer the ingredient list will be. Keep that in mind and you're already ahead of the majority of the diabetic populace of this country who walks around with rotgut calling the whole foods, carnivore lifestyle a death sentence.
But it has to work for YOU, otherwise it's a diet, not your diet. At that point why waste your time, might as well go full yolo.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 1:13 pm to Norway
I’ve done low carb/keto before and it definitely works. Meat, veggies, eggs, cheese is the way I try to eat most meals. It can definitely get boring/repetitive- chicken and veggies, steak and veggies, fish and veggies. I figured out that the flavored cream cheese is a good substitute for cream of XYZ soup and is about 1/3 of the carb level, so I would use cauli rice and make casseroles to change it up some.
My cholesterol was the best it’s ever been when I was following it strictly.
My cholesterol was the best it’s ever been when I was following it strictly.
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