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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:23 pm to Uncle JackD
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:23 pm to Uncle JackD
No.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:24 pm to TigerTatorTots
No he didn't. He has done a great job in guiding this.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:25 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:
No.
ThatMakesSense
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:25 pm to Duke
Well the pros have just released a synopsis. I'll just let the WPC discussion lay out the situation tonight for Houston.
"MESOSCALE PRECIPITATION DISCUSSION 0745
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
757 PM EDT SUN AUG 27 2017
AREAS AFFECTED...SOUTHEAST TX AND SOUTHERN LA
CONCERNING...HEAVY RAINFALL...FLASH FLOODING LIKELY
VALID 280000Z - 280600Z
SUMMARY...SIGNIFICANT TO CATASTROPHIC FLOODING IS POSSIBLE AGAIN
THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WHERE BANDING FEATURES ASSOCIATED WITH
HARVEY SET UP.
DISCUSSION...THE GOES-16 SHORT WAVE IR LOOP WAS INDICATING THE
DEVELOPMENT OF NORTH/SOUTH ORIENTED BANDING FEATURES FORMING OVER
PORTIONS OF THE UPPER TX COAST...AND THE REGIONAL RADARS ARE
STARTING TO SHOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF BANDED FEATURES AS WELL. THE
BANDED FEATURES ARE FORMING IN THE 35 TO 45 KNOT CONVERGENT FLOW
EAST OF THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION... WHERE 2.50/2.75 INCH
PRECIPITABLE WATER AIR IS FEEDING THE DEVELOPING BANDED CONVECTION.
HOURLY RAINFALL RATES ARE ONCE AGAIN APPROACHING 2.00 INCHES
ACROSS THE UPPER TX COAST OVER CHAMBERS...LIBERTY AND JEFFERSON
COUNTIES IN TX. AS WAS THE CASE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY
MORNING...BANDED CONVECTIVE FEATURES ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AND
TRACK SLOWLY EASTWARD...MAINLY ACROSS THE UPPER COAST OF TX AND
GRADUALLY MOVE INTO SOUTHWEST LA.
THERE IS A STRONG HIGH RESOLUTION MODEL SIGNAL FOR BANDING TO
BUILD THROUGH 03Z ACROSS THE UPPER TX COAST...THEN START PEAKING
BETWEEN 03Z AND 06Z FROM THE HOUSTON METRO AREA INTO PORTIONS OF
SOUTHWEST LA. WHILE THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES REGARDING THE
PLACEMENT OF THE MAXIMUM RAINFALL BANDS...ALL MODELS SHOW THE
POTENTIAL FOR HOURLY RAINFALL RATES BETWEEN 2.00 AND 3.00 INCHES
OVER THE UPPER TX COAST...AND LOCAL 5 TO 10+ INCHES OF RAINFALL
THROUGH 06Z.
THIS COULD INCLUDE THE HOUSTON METRO AREAS...AS SEVERAL HIGH
RESOLUTION MODEL RUNS (INCLUDING THE 12Z WRF ARW/NMMB AND 18Z NAM
CONUS NEST) INDICATED THAT HOUSTON COULD ONCE AGAIN BE IN FOR
SIGNIFICANT TO CATASTROPHIC FLASH FLOODING. ADDITIONAL FLOODING IS
EXPECTED AFTER 06Z AS WELL.
FURTHER NORTH...A PERSISTENT EAST NORTHEAST FLOW OF MODERATE TO
HEAVY RAINFALL NORTH OF THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION WILL CONTINUE.
THE MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY BECOME ELEVATED OVER PORTIONS OF
CENTRAL TX...AND COULD RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL 2.00 OR 3.00 INCH
RAINFALL AMOUNTS...EXACERBATING ONGOING FLOODING.
FINALLY...MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY FEEDING CONVECTION THAT RIDES
OVER A FRONTAL BOUNDARY OVER SOUTHERNMOST LA COULD PRODUCE
SCATTERED HOURLY RAINFALL RATES NEAR 2.00 INCHES AS IT REACHES THE
NEW ORLEANS METRO AREA. WHILE MUCH OF THE HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE
IS NOT BULLISH WITH THIS ACTIVITY...LOCAL 3.00 TO 5.00 INCH
AMOUNTS HERE COULD CAUSE ISSUES IN THE METRO AREA."
"MESOSCALE PRECIPITATION DISCUSSION 0745
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
757 PM EDT SUN AUG 27 2017
AREAS AFFECTED...SOUTHEAST TX AND SOUTHERN LA
CONCERNING...HEAVY RAINFALL...FLASH FLOODING LIKELY
VALID 280000Z - 280600Z
SUMMARY...SIGNIFICANT TO CATASTROPHIC FLOODING IS POSSIBLE AGAIN
THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WHERE BANDING FEATURES ASSOCIATED WITH
HARVEY SET UP.
DISCUSSION...THE GOES-16 SHORT WAVE IR LOOP WAS INDICATING THE
DEVELOPMENT OF NORTH/SOUTH ORIENTED BANDING FEATURES FORMING OVER
PORTIONS OF THE UPPER TX COAST...AND THE REGIONAL RADARS ARE
STARTING TO SHOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF BANDED FEATURES AS WELL. THE
BANDED FEATURES ARE FORMING IN THE 35 TO 45 KNOT CONVERGENT FLOW
EAST OF THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION... WHERE 2.50/2.75 INCH
PRECIPITABLE WATER AIR IS FEEDING THE DEVELOPING BANDED CONVECTION.
HOURLY RAINFALL RATES ARE ONCE AGAIN APPROACHING 2.00 INCHES
ACROSS THE UPPER TX COAST OVER CHAMBERS...LIBERTY AND JEFFERSON
COUNTIES IN TX. AS WAS THE CASE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY
MORNING...BANDED CONVECTIVE FEATURES ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AND
TRACK SLOWLY EASTWARD...MAINLY ACROSS THE UPPER COAST OF TX AND
GRADUALLY MOVE INTO SOUTHWEST LA.
THERE IS A STRONG HIGH RESOLUTION MODEL SIGNAL FOR BANDING TO
BUILD THROUGH 03Z ACROSS THE UPPER TX COAST...THEN START PEAKING
BETWEEN 03Z AND 06Z FROM THE HOUSTON METRO AREA INTO PORTIONS OF
SOUTHWEST LA. WHILE THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES REGARDING THE
PLACEMENT OF THE MAXIMUM RAINFALL BANDS...ALL MODELS SHOW THE
POTENTIAL FOR HOURLY RAINFALL RATES BETWEEN 2.00 AND 3.00 INCHES
OVER THE UPPER TX COAST...AND LOCAL 5 TO 10+ INCHES OF RAINFALL
THROUGH 06Z.
THIS COULD INCLUDE THE HOUSTON METRO AREAS...AS SEVERAL HIGH
RESOLUTION MODEL RUNS (INCLUDING THE 12Z WRF ARW/NMMB AND 18Z NAM
CONUS NEST) INDICATED THAT HOUSTON COULD ONCE AGAIN BE IN FOR
SIGNIFICANT TO CATASTROPHIC FLASH FLOODING. ADDITIONAL FLOODING IS
EXPECTED AFTER 06Z AS WELL.
FURTHER NORTH...A PERSISTENT EAST NORTHEAST FLOW OF MODERATE TO
HEAVY RAINFALL NORTH OF THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION WILL CONTINUE.
THE MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY BECOME ELEVATED OVER PORTIONS OF
CENTRAL TX...AND COULD RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL 2.00 OR 3.00 INCH
RAINFALL AMOUNTS...EXACERBATING ONGOING FLOODING.
FINALLY...MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY FEEDING CONVECTION THAT RIDES
OVER A FRONTAL BOUNDARY OVER SOUTHERNMOST LA COULD PRODUCE
SCATTERED HOURLY RAINFALL RATES NEAR 2.00 INCHES AS IT REACHES THE
NEW ORLEANS METRO AREA. WHILE MUCH OF THE HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE
IS NOT BULLISH WITH THIS ACTIVITY...LOCAL 3.00 TO 5.00 INCH
AMOUNTS HERE COULD CAUSE ISSUES IN THE METRO AREA."
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:26 pm to rds dc
can see the center slowly get closer to the Gulf
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:27 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:
#3. I'll meet you right now, I can go anywhere
I know of a Sonic.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:27 pm to Duke
Harvey going in raw on Houston again. This is insane. Naturally the flood potential is increasing toward SE La it looks too.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:28 pm to rds dc
That looks like it's bumping northward instead of the east. Good news, if so.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:29 pm to Duke
quote:
THAT HOUSTON COULD ONCE AGAIN BE IN FOR
SIGNIFICANT TO CATASTROPHIC FLASH FLOODING. ADDITIONAL FLOODING IS
EXPECTED AFTER 06Z AS WELL
Don't like that one bit. Ugh.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:29 pm to Duke
quote:
Duke
Forgive my ignorance but what does the purple line represent?
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:30 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:
I'll meet you right now, I can go anywhere.
Don't worry. Tatertots left BR after LSU and moved to the north shore to live that white flight life. The dude literally knows nothing outside of his suburb.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:33 pm to vl100butch
quote:
Any ideas on how many have gone over?
I "read" that 400 were going and that 200 were staying here "in case" but I'm not 100%.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:33 pm to Impotent Waffle
The purple line on the image is just the area the discussion is intended for.
rds, yeah that wasn't the most upbeat mesoscale I've ever read. Really cut my optimism for Houston this evening.
rds, yeah that wasn't the most upbeat mesoscale I've ever read. Really cut my optimism for Houston this evening.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:33 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:Relatives on Buffalo Bayou said the Corps is planning on this for 2am.
Posted by 50_Tiger on 8/27/17 at 5:34 pm to List Eater Army Corp of Engineers are possibly going to relieve some pressure from Barker reservoir. Buffalo Bayou is the intended impact area.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:35 pm to rds dc
I live in Alvin and the rain was crazy, it was a couple of inches from coming in the back door and about the same in the front. The water has receded a little bit but I don't know how long my house be dry if we get more rain tonight. We ended up having to call emergency services to get us out because we have a 3 day old daughter and I wasnt taking a chance with her or my wife recovering from giving birth.
All I can say is this is craziest thing I've ever witnessed
All I can say is this is craziest thing I've ever witnessed
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:36 pm to LouisianaTigers
Good luck to you and your family
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:36 pm to rds dc
quote:
That band west of Houston seems to be getting a bit more organized with cooling cloud tops. It is barely moving and needs to be watched as it rotates into Houston tonight.
3.25 - 4" of rain in the last hour near Cinco Ranch.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:37 pm to slackster
Get as many people before dark as possible.
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