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re: Gray wolf vs. Cheetah who wins?

Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:18 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:18 am to
75% of people on carnivora forum say the wolf wins


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Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:30 am to
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I think you're thinking of a leopard.



That makes me sad, but still impressed.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:54 am to
In a dog vs cat battle with 2 animals of relatively equal size, the cat will always win.

They are faster, more agile and by and large meaner.

The cheetah would frick the wolf up.
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:57 am to
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But you're not factoring in their behaviors. A cheetah immediately goes for the kill and is fast. The wolf is patient and likes to back up its prey. Plus wolves don't last long when they don't have a pack. If a wolf would act like a cheetah, then maybe it has a shot, but it doesn't.


I am considering their behaviors. Cheetahs prey on small, swift animals. While wolves are pack hunters, they attack much larger prey.

Cheetahs are built for short bursts, and do not have the power of big cats. Their claws are meant for grip, and aren't going to be a decided advantage.

The wolf is going to go all Floyd Mayweather on the cheetah and out work it.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 11:19 am
Posted by celltech1981
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:13 am to
pitt bull
Posted by Sparkplug#1
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:08 pm to
Having fought both, I'm going with pop tart.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Actually that's not true. The cheetah can run very fast for short distances. But it's weakness is running like that exhausts the cheetah very quickly. And by exhasution I mean it leaves it inable to do much more than lay down and sleep.



the wolf runs it's long distances at 5-10mph. It's top end speed is 35mph. The cheetah walks at almost 5 mph. and cheetahs have much better stamina than you think. Sure if the cheetah chases something for a quarter mile running 50-70mph they are gong to be extremely tired. My point was the cheetah has such quick acceleration that the wolf would never ever catch it. cheetahs are 0-50 in 2 seconds. the cheetah, while not a good climber, could also get away by climbing a tree.
while the wolf has persistence and stamina, it's also not stupid, and would realize quickly that this cat is far too quick for him to catch it, assuming the cheetah didn't fight and just wanted to get away, like it does with every predator it encounters, like African Wild Dogs, who aren't stupid enough to go after a cheetah even in a pack b/c it's a waste of energy.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:34 pm to
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You're totally overestimating the cheetah's claws




This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:36 pm to
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and cheetahs have much better stamina than you think.


THE WOLF'S PREFERRED HUNTING TACTIC IS TO LITERALLY RUN PREY INTO THE GROUND UNTIL THEY ARE TOO EXHAUSTED TO FIGHT
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:09 pm to
Ground wolf- Hard time beating a cheetah by itself.
Airwolf- Nothing beats Airwolf.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:14 pm to
Man, this isn't close 1 on 1 in open area.

Cheetah would fricking wreck a wolf.

In an octagon where the cheetah can't run or climb, wolf has a better shot, but still very close.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Wolf has fewer weapons.

Wolf also is not a solitary animal.


Exactly, wolves have evolved to be pack hunters part of their strength is in numbers. Cheetah's are ambush predators. Either you put them in a cage and the Cheetah is at a huge disadvantage or you put them in a big plain and a lone wolf will be at a disadvantage.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Wolves are plenty fast, but are able to run for hours. They often chase their prey until the victim gives up from exhaustion.


They can just climb a tree and laugh at the wolf until they aren't tired anymore and get another mile long head start.

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While the cheetah has claws, the wolves coat will protect it from most of the swipes.


No. Wolves aren't grizzly bears. Cheetah claws would do damage. And its not like Cheetah's have pussy fangs either:


Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Actually that's not true. The cheetah can run very fast for short distances. But it's weakness is running like that exhausts the cheetah very quickly. And by exhasution I mean it leaves it inable to do much more than lay down and sleep.

The wolf on the other hand is also made to run fast, although not as fast as the cheetah of course. But more than speed, the wolf has endurance. In a chase the cheetah would quickly run out of gas while the wolf still had hours and miles of running left in him. A wolf can run for extrodinary distances. Once the cheetah had to stop from exhaustion the wolf would quickly catch him and kill him while the cheetah lay there helpless to stop him.



Cheetah would just chill in a tree



This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:24 pm to
That's a leo.


Wolf wins easily.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:26 pm to
Changed

Just googled cheetah in tree
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Where are you going to find 10 men, each with a spear, attempt to kill a 500lb killing machine, knowing some of them are going to die in the process?
Will the 10 men kill it, sure, but i'll bet any amount of money the lion takes a few of them out, and being the smart humans we are, we aren't willing to risk the lives of a few just to kill another predator.



My point with that example is that we can be sure that a scenario like this has happened thousands upon thousands of times since man has been around, whether it be a lion, tiger, or bear. Wolves hunt like humans do, in that they hunt in extremely coordinated packs and try to exhaust their prey with sheer numbers and intelligence before taking them out.

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If the fight between the wolf and cheetah was outside in the wild, then the fight would never happen b/c the wolf would never catch the cheetah. The cheetah wouldn't even have to run fast to get away.


What the frick are you talking about? Wolves have simply incredible stamina that none of the cats can match. Sure the cheetah will outrun it for about 3 minutes, but the wolf would catch up once the cheetah exhausts itself. Their only competitor in this department are shocking humans.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:38 pm to
This has already been said multiple times, but I'll try again. Cheetahs do not have retractable claws like other cats and do not use them like weapons like other cats. Their claws are blunted from running. You are arguing from a position of complete ignorance and giving attributes to cheetahs that they do not have.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:40 pm to
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What the frick are you talking about? Wolves have simply incredible stamina that none of the cats can match. Sure the cheetah will outrun it for about 3 minutes, but the wolf would catch up once the cheetah exhausts itself.


It'll be 2 miles away napping in a tree out of danger, waiting for the wolf to follow its scent. Would give the cheetah a good chuckle.

Cheetah would then have the high ground

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:41 pm to
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It'll be 2 miles away napping in a tree out of danger, waiting for the wolf to follow its scent. Would give the cheetah a good chuckle.



Yeah, that's definitely possible, I'm just saying if someone thinks that a cheetah would beat a wolf in say a 10 mile race, they don't know much about the wolf and cheetah's stamina.
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