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re: Graphic video released from shooting of two Tulsa Police Officers

Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44118 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Would you agree that at this point you're being intentionally difficult so as to stifle legitimate discourse?


No. You made a claim, it is up to you to provide proof for your claim. That is how logical debate works. Until such time as you do so, it is your personal feelings on the matter....and nothing more.

This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 5:04 pm
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
18939 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

A billy club would’ve sufficed early on


Billy club bounces off a hard head but a convoy would open his skull like a dropped cantaloupe.

This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 5:05 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:26 pm to
I just can't understand how any upstanding person of good character could vote democrat in this day and age.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:29 pm to
People voting democrat don’t have good character, simple.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90894 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:55 pm to
you see how he went from crying & begging to stone cold killer in a flash?

HE WAS ACTING THE WHOLE TIME. just waiting for the cops to let their guard down.

so am i supposed to feel bad for this guy for getting tased & maced?
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
7834 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

No. You made a claim, it is up to you to provide proof for your claim. That is how logical debate works. Until such time as you do so, it is your personal feelings on the matter....and nothing more.



Nope, that's not how this works. It's a message board, not your term paper, and I have a life and family. I have time for a good faith debate from time to time, but I'm not going to devote 6 hours to back and forth on pointless side points and gotchas that don’t pertain to the central argument. Obviously the minute I provide a source, you’re going to open a new side argument that it’s all fake. I gave you some examples. If they weren't cited to your liking, you can Google 'Trump Immigrant Mexican' to get to the quotes on the platform of your favorite source of information. It sounds like you’re going to need to claim some shallow victory here and pretend I couldn't find the quotes, but in doing that I’d suggest you also take a few minutes to reflect on the difference in how one approaches a good and bad faith discussion. Pity it went that way, I enjoyed the first few exchanges. Roll Tide.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44118 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:21 pm to
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I have time for a good faith debate from time to time


But you're not debating in good faith. You're passing off your opinions as fact, then refusing to provide proof that they are indeed facts.



Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107884 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:33 pm to
Shut up fricker. You’re a little bitch
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55832 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:51 pm to
what Police need is a massive fork lift for people who won't get out of their cars....

drape the car with chains...break windows for air...

and carry them to the police station..., drop them off inside a huge prison...car and all...

Figure it out Pal....when you sober up and get hungry, maybe you will want to cooperate, apologize and surrender....

Done!
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10365 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:49 pm to
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Yep. Cops had to take it easy on that piece of shite and one paid for it with his life. Had they not been afraid to really pull his arse out of that car with force, one would be alive.



The results of this fricken BLM bullshite.
Need to start blowing them away.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47571 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:56 pm to
frick BLM for escalating this war on police officers. It is time to fricking eradicate that group. frick anyone who roots for this to happen, which is basically anyone who votes dem.

This is infuriating and tragic. No felon's life is worth saving at the risk of a police officer's life.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24763 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:59 am to
Man that was tough to watch

Holy shite!
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125390 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 5:41 am to
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OweO
Laughable commentary coming from you.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38955 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 5:48 am to
I can’t even look at the tweet because I want to strangle half of the people in the comments.
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

can’t even look at the tweet because I want to strangle half of the people in the comments.


Ya the replies in that tweet are pretty bad, and some are down right disgusting. It’s hard to imagine that actual people considered Americans are typing out the trash that I was reading.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8365 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 11:09 pm to
Here, let me help you make your argument...

quote:

Trump blamed COVID, a threat that he says he always knew was deadly, as a democratic/ media hoax.


What's True

During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.

What's False

Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.

LINK

quote:

He said that Mexican immigrants are typically bad people; rapists or drug dealers


REMARKS

Remarks by President Trump on the Illegal Immigration Crisis and Border Security

 IMMIGRATION

Issued on: November 1, 2018

 ALL NEWS

Roosevelt Room

4:19 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you very much, everyone. Appreciate it. And good afternoon. I would like to provide an update to the American people regarding the crisis on our southern border — and crisis it is.

Illegal immigration affects the lives of all Americans. Illegal immigration hurts American workers; burdens American taxpayers; and undermines public safety; and places enormous strain on local schools, hospitals, and communities in general, taking precious resources away from the poorest Americans who need them most. Illegal immigration costs our country billions and billions of dollars each year.

And we’ve done a great job with the laws that we have. We’re moving in tremendous numbers of people to get out the MS-13 gangs and others gangs that illegally come into our country. And we’re getting them out by the thousands.

But this is a perilous situation, and it threatens to become even more hazardous as our economy gets better and better. A lot of the cause of this problem is the fact that we right now have the hottest economy anywhere in the world. It’s doing better than any economy in the world. Jobs, unemployment — you look at any number.

And we’ve already dispatched, for the border, the United States military. And they will do the job. They are setting up right now, and they’re preparing. We hope nothing happens. But if it does, we are totally prepared. Greatest military anywhere in the world, and it’s going to be, and is now, in great shape. No longer depleted like it was when I took over as the President of the United States.

These caravans and illegal migrants are drawn to our country by Democrat-backed laws and left-wing judicial rulings. We’re getting rulings that are so ridiculous, so bad. They’re writing the laws. Can’t do that. Collectively known as — as an example, catch-and-release. It’s a disgrace that we have to put up with it.

These policies lead to the release of illegal aliens into our communities after they’ve been apprehended. But we’re not releasing anymore. Big change, as of a couple of days ago. We’re going to no longer release. We’re going to catch; we’re not going to release. They’re going to stay with us until the deportation hearing or the asylum hearing takes place. So we’re not releasing them into the community.

We have millions of people that, over the years, have been released into the community. They never show up for the trials. They never come back. They’re never seen again. And those people, they know who they are. And we know a lot of where they are, who they are. And those people will be deported, directly deported.

These individuals disrespect the foundations of American government by voluntarily choosing to break the law as their first act on American soil.

Furthermore, contained within this giant flow of illegal migration to our southwest border is the movement of illicit and deadly narcotics. It’s in the southwest, most of it comes in. Nearly 100 percent of heroin in the United States enters through the southern border– think of that: 100 percent, almost, of heroin comes in through the southern border, along with roughly 90 percent of cocaine, and the majority of meth, and a substantial portion of the ultra-lethal fentanyl killing our youth. Fentanyl is killing our youth.

These drugs destroy the lives and kill much more than 70,000 Americans every single year. And the number goes up. It goes up and up and up, because we are so foolish with our laws that we allow this to happen. A death toll equivalent of the size of an entire American city every year.

LINK
Referring to MS13, not Mexicans
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3915 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 5:57 am to
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Trump is our president, Biden is not. The method to Trump's madness is stirring the pot and forcing uneducated American voter's into thinking they have this false choice of picking between one of two equally insane positions. His goal is to erase a middle ground. In this climate, as you have seen, the idiots all across the board are empowered and we have the worst racial unrest and anti-establishment movements since the 60's. Now, I wouldn't even blame this murder on either man because, again, I'm not an idiot who speaks in absolutes. I'm saying if we must choose between the two men, obviously you have to go with the guy who's in power.



I think you're being a bit disingenuous here. The anti-police movement began with and was promoted by the Obama administration which Biden was part of.

Newton's Third Law "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction"

Trump and the majority of this nation excluding the liberal coastal areas are pushing back (reacting) to the lunacy that was promoted during the Obama/Biden years.
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