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re: Granting dying wishes vs going against a parents wishes.

Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36384 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:32 pm to
What a selfish see you next... that she’d guilt you and your wife to go against what the two of you agreed upon regarding raising your kids.

I mean *absolutely* no disrespect, but tell the bitch to get bent.

It’s shite like this that makes me and a lot of us atheist/agnostic and not follow organized religion... because of the bullshite beliefs and mandates.

Thing is? I’m not even a little bit surprised.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18934 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

If one can't just live their life doing right by others and get into heaven, then that place isn't nearly as great as folks make it out to be.
Why?

It says in the book that all we have to do is BELIEVE.

Works gets you nothing. I do know this, belief will cause one to improve their works.

It's dis-ingenious to believe somebody's works on earth would be some determining factor as to how great a place called heaven may be.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
29061 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:36 pm to
Doesn’t it take a while to get baptized? I’m not catholic so I don’t know but I thought you had to go through some steps first.

Besides that, at 4 and 5 it may be very odd to them to suddenly jump into something like that.
Posted by InwardJim
Member since Dec 2018
656 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

I mean *absolutely* no disrespect, but tell the bitch to get bent.

It’s shite like this that makes me and a lot of us atheist/agnostic and not follow organized religion... because of the bull shite beliefs and mandates.





Grandma rustling your jimmies, heathen?
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12344 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:41 pm to
Get them baptized. End of story. You’ll regret when she dies and you decided not to
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
62321 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:43 pm to
What's the will situation?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32738 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:43 pm to
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You’ll regret when she dies and you decided not to

Why?
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

quote:
You’ll regret when she dies and you decided not to

Why?


Because Skydaddy said so
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18934 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

It’s shite like this that makes me and a lot of us atheist/agnostic and not follow organized religion...
This is one of your reasons for not following?

This is all?
quote:

mandates
I didn't see a "mandate" in there but based on mandates that I am aware and very familiar with are both reasonable and useful.

I think you guys don't like to follow rules you don't like.

I don't like the pick and choose way of dealing with rules (and laws).

I see value in the way man lives with their fellow man in order for us to have a civil society in all the "mandates" within the bible, in particularly the New Testament.

I have connected nearly every useful law to Christian religion "mandates" in the past.

Believe in ghosts or not, one should deal with grandma the same.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18934 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:49 pm to
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Because Skydaddy said so
Not so.

It's because grandma said so in this case.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6484 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:51 pm to
What harm would baptising the kids do? It will literally have no impact on their earthly lives. They can join another religion, never practice, or do whatever the hell they want later. Make your grandmother happy in her dying days.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111307 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:52 pm to
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It says in the book that all we have to do is BELIEVE.
So if I'm a piece of shite human for 70 years but believe and apologize for all the piece of shite stuff I've done after realizing I've been a piece of shite for 70 years, i go to Heaven when i die.

But if I don't believe or am just indifferent to the idea of Heaven/God but I do great things and dedicate my life to helping others, I don't go to Heaven?

Does that sound like a great place to you?

quote:

It's dis-ingenious to believe somebody's works on earth would be some determining factor as to how great a place called heaven may be.
Not in the conversation of the company to be kept in this great place called Heaven.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67807 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:52 pm to
I’ll be honeat, I know she’s dying but it’s not great to use that to leverage people.

Your kids are your kids. You have to make your choices for them not anyone else.

However, I dont Think I understand your current situation. Is your family prwxticing Catholicism? If so, might as well get em baptized. It really doesn’t stop you from converting to any other faith later.

My mother converted, my wife converted and my cousin converted.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

It's because grandma said so in this case.

and grandma said so in this case because Skydaddy told her that's what you're supposed to do.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15594 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:16 pm to
I would just tell her the truth, that it isn't something you want to do as parents. She can either accept it or be angry, I doubt she will be angry. She has bigger worries.

Mine knows I won't take any shite about decisions I have made, so she complains to my parents. They just tell her he is as hard headed as you are, he gets that from you.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 3:18 pm
Posted by TIGERBAIT84
Member since May 2007
1958 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:27 pm to
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Baptizing them now doesn't prevent them independently making a decision later in life on what religious route they would like to take


Baptizing now does however unwillingly affiliate them with an organized religion that they may or may not choose to want to be affiliated with later in life.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
14019 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:30 pm to
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It will also be a nice memory with pics and a family gathering that the grandparent will enjoy.
For one person

I can't imagine others involved would feel anything but awkward or uncomfortable

Including the props I mean kids
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:30 pm to
Hear
Believe
Repent
Confess

5 and 4 year olds are not capable of this. They should not get baptized now. And your grandmothers request has nothing to do with it.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28757 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:34 pm to
I understand your point about your children, but even if you baptize them in the Catholic faith, they will still make their own decision.

They are young and you are raising independent people.

You won't be pounding it into them.

She's dying.

Why not have a small ceremony, a family event, and let her have some smiles?
Posted by TIGERBAIT84
Member since May 2007
1958 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:37 pm to
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OP Why didn't you baptize your kids? "I want them to make a decision on their own one day" is bullshite. You can baptize them and they could choose later in life to not be a devout Catholic such as yourself. At least, start them on the path


So what your saying is to make their decision for them. Teach them ways, behaviors and a certain groups beliefs then one day just say ok.... now your allowed to decide if all of that was what you wanted?
Kinda like wiping your arse before you shite if you ask me.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 4:20 pm
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