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re: Granting dying wishes vs going against a parents wishes.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 4:33 pm to TIGERBAIT84
Posted on 3/5/20 at 4:33 pm to TIGERBAIT84
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Ok, say i baptize them this Sunday. Wouldn’t I be a bad parent if I don’t bring them mass the next Sunday?
Were you married in the church? If so you are already neglecting a vow you made on their behalf, so what is one more? You make the promises at baptism on their behalf. And if you were married in the church you are already breaking similar promises made during a Catholic nuptial, so im not sure how breaking these would make you any worse of a parent. If not married in the Church disregard.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 4:36 pm to RemouladeSawce
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You're missing the point on this entirely. This isn't the context of a simple irreligious household, it's the reality of what the following sequence would likely do to a 4 and 5 year old's perception of religion and their parents in the long-term.
"We're going to let you all make choices on religion when you're older."
Next week out of nowhere: "We changed our thinking on this, we're going to have you all partake in the first sacrament of Christianity right away."
Next month: "I know it is confusing but you don't need to worry about church anymore."
If the above goes down, the kids end up confused in the short-term and locks for agnosticism/atheism when they're older.
I understand you entirely. You are seriously overstating the mental capacity of small children.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 5:32 pm to Redbone
quote:Did you just use the phrase “reasonable and useful” in terms of religion?
both reasonable and useful.
And in regards to you believing in a “civil society” and how religion can dictate and guide the weak minded, do you need a fictional man in the sky to “teach” you how to be a “good person” and not be a dick towards other people?
You can boil the *ENTIRE* bible and it’s commandments down to one phrase:
“Do unto others as you would like be done to you”
That’s it. And my jimmies aren’t rustled. I could debate religious inconsistencies and inaccuracies forever.
But as much as I don’t try to keep people from having their “faith”, I appreciate people who believe not being ridiculous about it.
Religion is like a penis. It’s something to have and be proud of... but I draw the line of tolerance when you shove it down my throat.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 5:38 pm to yankeeundercover
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You can boil the *ENTIRE* bible and it’s commandments down to one phrase:
“Do unto others as you would like be done to you”
Nope. No more than you can boil the entire cosmos down to "Twinkle, twinkle Little Star"..
Posted on 3/5/20 at 5:48 pm to LCA131
quote:Sorry, Rabbi... but I would love to hear your debate argument against it
Nope
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 3/5/20 at 6:03 pm to yankeeundercover
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Sorry, Rabbi... but I would love to hear your debate argument against it
I'm not against that "Golden Rule", but I feel like there are many things that Jesus says that very important and have a lot to do with other portions of Faith.
Since I know you'll ask, even though it's just my opinion...
-Charity
-A recognition of the Source of all life...
-A willingness to do what's necessary (suffer?) to maintain and grow your Faith...
Anyway... In many opinions of those who live in their Faith, it simply can't be boiled down to a sentence.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 6:03 pm to TIGERBAIT84
Dying wishes are so selfish of those who are about to be deceased. Guilting their loved ones to do things while you’re on your death bed isnt right
Posted on 3/5/20 at 6:06 pm to TIGERBAIT84
Lol dude take off your fedora and baptize your kids
Posted on 3/5/20 at 6:41 pm to TIGERBAIT84
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TIGERBAIT84
Haven’t read the entire thread, but of what I have, you’ve gotten a bunch of responses from some projecting arse retards.
“She’s selfish”?!?!? This woman is knocking on deaths door and what is she doing? Blowing it out? Checking off her bucket list?
No. In her final days, her efforts are toward securing eternal bliss for her great grand children.
I don’t share her convictions, but I can recognize her intentions are far from selfish.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 3/5/20 at 6:57 pm to MikeBRLA
Are you also not going to give your kids any Christin education? For the sake of their future in life you might really want to consider this as well.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 6:57 pm to LCA131
quote:How does the “Golden Rule” not apply here?
Charity
quote:How does this apply outside of an internal meaning for solace/understanding?
A recognition in the Source of all life
quote:Again, the rule applies here too.
A willingness to do what’s necessary
#boomlawyered
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:00 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Late here too. Baptizing isn’t somehow predetermining your kid’s belief system, it’s pacifying you and your family’s. Pretty damn hipster not to, I like it.
I was cured of religion too. I also baptized my son and have sent him to 10 years of private catholic school. 5 more to go.
I was cured of religion too. I also baptized my son and have sent him to 10 years of private catholic school. 5 more to go.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:04 pm to TIGERBAIT84
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What would you do?
Not do it and tell her I did
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:06 pm to Masterag
Are these kids ‘intact’ so to speak?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:37 pm to CrimsonTideMD
It's not projecting, it's just blatant ignorance to admit you aren't and don't understand Catholics and then to determine her reasons for asking were selfish.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:41 pm to TIGERBAIT84
I know I’m late to the conversation here but I am similar to you. I have not had my children baptized, I was brought up catholic.
If it was requested by an elder family member, I’d have the kids baptized if it meant that much to them. It doesn’t mean much to me one way or another and to the kids it’s a splash of water.
If it was requested by an elder family member, I’d have the kids baptized if it meant that much to them. It doesn’t mean much to me one way or another and to the kids it’s a splash of water.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:58 pm to unbeWEAVEable
Exactly thst was my point
I didn’t think I needed to elaborate it
I didn’t think I needed to elaborate it
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:26 pm to TIGERBAIT84
I would absolutely do it, for the measure of peace it will bring her. It’s very rare to be in a position to do that.
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