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re: Granting dying wishes vs going against a parents wishes.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:52 pm to TexasTiger90
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:52 pm to TexasTiger90
quote:saying this in a catholic thread is hilarious
And this is what’s wrong with people these days, no God/Religion in their lives leads to no guidance or standard to live by. If you are Catholic then raise your children to be Catholic and follow that religion.
The church is a giant child rape syndicate
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:52 pm to TH03
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No disrespect, but your grandmother is pretty lucky to even live long enough to see her great grandchildren. You shouldn't alter your plan for raising your children because of the wishes of someone they'll never know.
This is a pretty fricking selfish request of her.
It really is. Using her diagnosis to manipulate you into doing what she wants is pretty fricked up.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:52 pm to TIGERBAIT84
I really don’t get what y’all don’t understand about this. There are two perspectives: grandma and the parents. Is grandma being unreasonable and is the reason for not baptizing correct?
1: grandma. She’s not unreasonable and right or wrong she likely believes the below to be true and believes she is looking out for her great grand kids.
2: yalls reasoning for not baptizing was so they could make their own decision. If you believed like your grandmother I would question your parenting but it sounds like you don’t. In that case what does it matter whether they are baptized or not.
1: grandma. She’s not unreasonable and right or wrong she likely believes the below to be true and believes she is looking out for her great grand kids.
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Posted by CoachChappy online on 3/5/20 at 1:23 pm to TIGRLEE quote: Weird request. Not really. If the kids were to die unbaptized, they don;t get into heaven. GMaw wants that protection for them. OP Why didn't you baptize your kids? "I want them to make a decision on their own one day" is bull shite. You can baptize them and they could choose later in life to not be a devout Catholic such as yourself. At least, start them on the path.
2: yalls reasoning for not baptizing was so they could make their own decision. If you believed like your grandmother I would question your parenting but it sounds like you don’t. In that case what does it matter whether they are baptized or not.
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Posted by LazloHollyfeld on 3/5/20 at 1:11 pm to TIGERBAIT84 Baptizing them now doesn't prevent them independently making a decision later in life on what religious route they would like to take
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:53 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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saying this in a catholic thread is hilarious
The church is a giant child rape syndicate
Just like when kids die in tragic ways, it's all part of God's plan.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:55 pm to TIGERBAIT84
Forget my last advice about cherishing your grandmother.
Tell her to go frig herself. She's probably giving all her money to the church anyway.
Am I doing this right?
Tell her to go frig herself. She's probably giving all her money to the church anyway.
Am I doing this right?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:56 pm to Wasp
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If the kids were to die unbaptized, they don;t get into heaven.
I hate this argument and this is a huge issue I have with religion...
So you're telling me that if a child dies drying birth or on the way home from the hospital, they either burn in hell or sit in purgatory for eternity?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:57 pm to CoachChappy
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But it seems like Gmaw does.
And that's irrelevant to the wishes of the parents.
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Oh really? You mean the thing that already happened is an option? Some of you people
What is this rambling supposed to mean?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:57 pm to TIGERBAIT84
I inadvertently walked in on a conversation my MIL was having with her sister and my sister-in-law. My MIL was nearly in tears explaining how disappointed she was that my kids weren't being raised in a religious home or baptized. It wasn't that she wanted them to find salvation or anything, it was "I'll never get to see them in heaven".
I turned right back around and left the room without saying a word. I'm not going to be guilt-tripped by my MIL to indoctrinate my children based on her own personal beliefs.
I turned right back around and left the room without saying a word. I'm not going to be guilt-tripped by my MIL to indoctrinate my children based on her own personal beliefs.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:58 pm to Displaced
quote:That's what they believe.
So you're telling me that if a child dies drying birth or on the way home from the hospital, they either burn in hell or sit in purgatory for eternity?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:59 pm to TIGERBAIT84
I would grant that wish. It will also be a nice memory with pics and a family gathering that the grandparent will enjoy.
My wife cares nothing for organized religions but knowing that it mattered to my mom, she let my mom handle all that.
My wife cares nothing for organized religions but knowing that it mattered to my mom, she let my mom handle all that.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:00 pm to Displaced
quote:you just don’t understand god bro
So you're telling me that if a child dies drying birth or on the way home from the hospital, they either burn in hell or sit in purgatory for eternity?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:01 pm to OutDamSpot
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that the grandparent will enjoy.
For all of like 5 minutes.
This is a decision that will far outlive her lifespan. It's pretty shitty to play the "I'm dying pls do it" card here.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:01 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:He really does work in mysterious ways. Like sending kids to hell if they don't get water sprinkled on their heads while their parents take pictures
you just don’t understand god bro
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:03 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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you just don’t understand god bro
I guess not.
I've long held the belief that if there is a God, he is a sadistic a-hole and certainly not worthy of our worship.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:03 pm to Displaced
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So you're telling me that if a child dies drying birth or on the way home from the hospital, they either burn in hell or sit in purgatory for eternity?
Yeah
Well, unless your willing to spare a small donation to the church, then they should be fine
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:09 pm to Slimeball
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Yeah
Well, unless your willing to spare a small donation to the church, then they should be fine
Modern Jesus also accepts "likes" and "shares" in considering curing people.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:12 pm to shel311
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That's what they believe.
It is hard to wrap your brain around it.. Well at least it is for me, but their are people who believe this. There are some people who will say that if God wanted the child baptized he would have not allowed him to die on the way home from the hospital.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:15 pm to shel311
That’s definitely not true.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:17 pm to TIGERBAIT84
Baptize them, all they do is sprinkle water on them 
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:27 pm to TIGERBAIT84
quote:No one, family or otherwise, is due more than this.
I also know that ones dying wish should be heard and considered
Here is my personal case. My 3 boys were all baptized. Not one stayed in the Catholic faith. It may have been a waste of time.
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