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re: Gov. Landry has pulled the plug on Louisiana’s biggest coastal project, Tulane expert says
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:31 pm to Northshoretiger87
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:31 pm to Northshoretiger87
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In the last election we had a business man, Rispone, who was nixed because of Honor Code
Rispone might have run the worst campaign in the history of LA politics.
It's a shame, because I beleive he would have been a good governor. But in order to be a good governor, first, you have to get elected, which means having a competent campaign. He did not.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:42 pm to Flablete
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Dredging is the answer..not Diverting
We can't dredge our way out of this problem. We've tried. Sounds good, doesn't work.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:46 pm to ragincajun03
Reading this thread reminds me that this board has some very smart people posting... and some absolute dumbasses posting.
It's truly amazing how a single message board can bring so many different types of people into the fold.
It's truly amazing how a single message board can bring so many different types of people into the fold.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:58 pm to Flablete
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Dredging is the answer..not Diverting
Dredging is only moving dirt from one part of the basin to another its not increasing the sediment budget for the basin.
Diversion will bring new sediment into the basin.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 12:01 am to AngelBaby
Benefit or not, Watch for Scalise to crush it to make sure Graves gets NO win on the way out the door.
Probably so and it would be the most LA move since Earl Long thought he was sticking it to the Feds when he originally negotiated the 3 miles instead of the 9 miles like FL and TX.
Probably so and it would be the most LA move since Earl Long thought he was sticking it to the Feds when he originally negotiated the 3 miles instead of the 9 miles like FL and TX.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:02 am to Scruffy
It’s not erosion. It’s natural subsidence that happens with river deltas that are not allowed to avulse.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:16 am to ragincajun03
Is 21 square miles over 50 years really worth $3 billion?
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:17 am to EST
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Is 21 square miles over 50 years really worth $3 billion?
The NPCs are awake
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:47 am to ragincajun03
Those oysters aren’t going to sell themselves! Oyster lobby doing work. Perhaps the entirety of the Westbank will be oyster beds when the people are forced to leave But won’t Billy be out of politics by then ?
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:40 am to LSUFanHouston
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quote:Open up bayou lafourche at donaldsonville and let nature do its thing like it intended.
The oyster lobby or whatever special interest then will bend Landry over to prevent it. Landry has no solutions so he’ll just fall back on shite like “culture.”
How is it that fricking plaquemines parish is the most powerful entity in the state?
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:41 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 9:12 am to ragincajun03
Why do they have to build a multibillion dollar structure? Why can't the USACOE just blow some holes in the levees? The Mississippi River broke its banks in 2011 and created Mardi Grass Pass. It is now creating land for free.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 9:30 am to Northshoretiger87
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In the last election we had a business man, Rispone, who was nixed because of Honor Code. He would’ve been a a leader. Instead Republicans for Edwards elect a semiretarded Sloth and then give us a career politician who is just as corrupt as Honor Code right after, this time with a R on the back.
Keep in mind, it was also the fricknuts up in N. LA who were still stuck to Ralph Abraham's nuts. There should have been a lot more peace brokered there but Louisiana's GOP is completely and totally inept.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 9:39 am to jwalk38
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Do y’all know how small 21 square miles is?
How much more land will we keep losing without the diversion? So not only are you gaining 21 square miles of new land, but you're preventing the continued erosion of existing land.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 9:57 am to WeeWee
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The Mississippi River broke its banks in 2011 and created Mardi Grass Pass. It is now creating land for free.
MG Pass is also in an uninhabited part of the eastbank. Not really all that big of a deal if MG Pass gets washed out and widened during future river floods since there's no roads or buildings to worry about around there.
Can't risk having a diversion on the westbank side without armoring and reinforcing the entire thing so there isn't risk of failure during future river floods.
MG Pass is a perfect example of why the diversion is needed though. You can see the evidence over the past 10-12 years with the new land that's been built and improvement on vegetation on the east side compared to the westbank side. And the fishing is still great on the east side when the river isn't high.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:00 am to Northshoretiger87
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Louisiana gets what it deserves. Consistently shitty governors. Nothing changes.
I saw this from my teenage years and vowed to leave and did.
More ridiculous is the fact that everyone says its ridiculous and no one does a thing about it. They still lock and load the same talking heads every single term. Its laughable.
The same happens in all parishes as well.
The problem is all the talent left the state.
Louisiana is the equivalent of every other foreign country the US plucks the best and brightest from leaving them with average folks. A bunch of average folks driven by greed.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:06 am to Tiger Prawn
There are so many benefits to the Barataria basin if the diversion is built
- Land building
- Improving the health of existing marsh
- Protecting existing wetlands
- Nutrient load distributed across the basin
- Improved tidal prism (more water going out island passes improves health of passes and can restore barrier islands naturally)
- Improved food chain for all wildlife including shrimp and oysters
Cons
- Shrimp and Oyster habitat is a little farther away from the present
- Land building
- Improving the health of existing marsh
- Protecting existing wetlands
- Nutrient load distributed across the basin
- Improved tidal prism (more water going out island passes improves health of passes and can restore barrier islands naturally)
- Improved food chain for all wildlife including shrimp and oysters
Cons
- Shrimp and Oyster habitat is a little farther away from the present
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:24 am to Hobie101
Also consider this:
The 2.9 or 3 billion is not in any way coming from Louisiana taxpayers dollars. It is money that is already there. If the state does not use it on this project, then the state will have to pay back the 500 or so million that has already been handed out to the contractors - which will be difficult to do. Then the allocated 3 or so billion will be earmarked for another coastal project - maybe not in the state of Louisiana. The 3 billion is going to the contractors who will then pay their subs and suppliers. Many of whom are local companies. And they employ mostly local residents. The non local residents are renting apartments or long term hotels or spots in RV parks. They are eating at local restaurants and shopping for groceries at local gas stations and local stores. This is sales tax revenue that will be coming in over the 4 or so year lifespan of the construction of the project. Local companies and local divisions of companies are hiring more people in the area to keep up with the demand of the construction - which is income tax revenue. The state is not paying a dollar for the construction but has been and will be gaining revenue because of the project. Just the company that I work for has hired 6 local employees (including myself) and contracted a dozen local companies to do a variety of work to set up our facilities for this project. There are dozens of other companies setting up in the area for this project that are doing the same. It is helping the local economy without using any taxpayer dollars to pay for the construction up front.
The 2.9 or 3 billion is not in any way coming from Louisiana taxpayers dollars. It is money that is already there. If the state does not use it on this project, then the state will have to pay back the 500 or so million that has already been handed out to the contractors - which will be difficult to do. Then the allocated 3 or so billion will be earmarked for another coastal project - maybe not in the state of Louisiana. The 3 billion is going to the contractors who will then pay their subs and suppliers. Many of whom are local companies. And they employ mostly local residents. The non local residents are renting apartments or long term hotels or spots in RV parks. They are eating at local restaurants and shopping for groceries at local gas stations and local stores. This is sales tax revenue that will be coming in over the 4 or so year lifespan of the construction of the project. Local companies and local divisions of companies are hiring more people in the area to keep up with the demand of the construction - which is income tax revenue. The state is not paying a dollar for the construction but has been and will be gaining revenue because of the project. Just the company that I work for has hired 6 local employees (including myself) and contracted a dozen local companies to do a variety of work to set up our facilities for this project. There are dozens of other companies setting up in the area for this project that are doing the same. It is helping the local economy without using any taxpayer dollars to pay for the construction up front.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:39 am to lsuchip30
I know that Gov Landry has mentioned that Louisiana would be on the hook for any overages beyond the 3 billion. Anyone think there would be a chance that he and the state could get some assurances from CRPA and the trust that they would cover that? I feel like the project is a no brainer and easy win if LA taxpayers are not paying for any of the construction and the state and local economies are benifitting from tax dollars coming in as a result of the construction.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:51 am to Hobie101
So the plan is to spend $2,000,000,000 dollars for 12,000 acres of land? In addition to adding fresh water to the current eco system? The ROI just isn’t there for this project.
Louisiana should fight to keep the earmarked money for more sustainable coastal projects.
CPRA is in the process of a Mid Breton Land Bridge project that is much more feasible with similar results at a fraction of the costs of the diversion.
LINK
Louisiana should fight to keep the earmarked money for more sustainable coastal projects.
CPRA is in the process of a Mid Breton Land Bridge project that is much more feasible with similar results at a fraction of the costs of the diversion.
LINK
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