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re: Got a serious question for the OT: got caught cheating on a paper

Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:42 am to
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
5276 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:42 am to
I hope the OP comes back, just read this whole thread for nothing.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40403 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:21 am to
Write a new paper and show it to them.

Admit that you were looking at another chicks paper and accidentally put your name on here and turned it in instead of your own. Claim sleep deprivation or drunkenness
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3414 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:48 am to
All this talk of plagiarizing makes me glad I took CM at LSU.

Out of a 100 person class there was probably only 3-4 "original" papers for everything we did.


Just re word the shite. Takes 5 minutes and covers your arse for this sort of stuff.
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
in the transfer portal
Member since Dec 2009
2543 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:12 am to
quote:

I took CM at LSU.

quote:

Out of a 100 person class there was probably only 3-4 "original" papers for everything we did.


Wow.
Would it be safe to say that LSU CM isn't on the leading edge of CM technology and research?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91718 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:31 pm to
Just deny it. You may have to have some hearing if the teacher decides to persue it.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6980 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:43 pm to
Since the meeting is on Halloween, wear a silly costume so that everyone can just have a good laugh and forget this whole thing.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:46 pm to
No good will come out of this if you admit to anything, so don't. Just deny it. If this is LSU, you are getting fricked either way....so at least make them do the leg work.

Are you white BTW? If so, how white? It will make a difference on your strategy.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Are you white BTW? If so, how white? It will make a difference on your strategy.


Pray that you are black and can cry racism.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Your only option is to go nuclear with an excuse. Tell the teacher that you're transitioning and are depressed


He'd basically have to show up to the meeting with tits, purple hair, and rope burn on his neck if he copied it word for word.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
4701 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:27 pm to
Quit school and join the military.

quote:

In his sophomore year at Harvard, Kennedy was expelled for cheating. In danger of failing a Spanish class, Kennedy paid a friend to take an exam for him. The student was recognized – and both were expelled. After a stint in the Army, Kennedy returned to Harvard, where he eventually received a degree.
teddy boy kennedy



Posted by thatoneguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
603 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:27 pm to
The "W" would still show up on the transcript though.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53616 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:14 pm to
quote:


Write an entire new paper loosely based on the same subject and claim you had the past paper as help and put it in the references. Then claim complete ignorance in the meeting and say you must've put the wrong attachment



No.

If they used an electronic submission have another paper and plea ignorance. A completely different one. Prove that the system didn't glitch.

It's weak as hell, but might give you enough plausible deniability to not get expelled.

But if you were dumb enough to submit a word for word essay on a anti counterfeiting site your replacement essay will prob be " I haz a crayon"
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:51 pm to
Not sure what the policy is at your school, but I served 2 years on the Academic Honesty Committee while at Auburn in the early 2000's. For an undergrad that hasn't been before the committee before, you would most likely get a zero on the paper, have a notation put on your transcripts that you cheated in the class, and not allowed to forgive the grade. Students that came in who were caught red handed( and zero doubt they did it) and still denied and lied, would be given an F for the course.

Now, if you are a Grad student or PHD student, you would either be suspended or expelled. One instance we expelled at student that plagiarized her PHD thesis and she was deported back to China due to losing her visa.

Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16369 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:53 pm to
I'm a university faculty member at an SEC school. Here's how it goes at my joint:

If they have copies of both papers, then you're dead in the water. Confess and beg for mercy. The fact that you are going to the teacher and not the dean is a glimmer of hope for you. Technically, the person who supplied the paper is in trouble, too. If they did it willingly, knowing what you planned to do, then let them fight their own fight. If you took off their computer or a server without their knowledge, then fess up and don't get them in trouble.

I had a student doing this to one of her sorority sisters in the same class, long ago. When the sorority sis went to take a shower or use the bathroom, the other girl would pop a jump drive into her computer and copy her assignment. Not only did she turn it in word-for-word the same, but she often didn't wait until the roommate was done with the assignment and would submit it only 3/4 complete, sometimes with an incomplete sentence at the end of it. That one went straight to the dean and the girl that was stealing the papers was given the opportunity to withdraw from the university. I'm guessing that wasn't her first time in that situation.

I caught someone doing exactly what you claim to have done, several years ago. She denied it, even though I had the paper she copied from a previous semester sitting side-by-side with her own. She was given an F for the course by the dean's office. That was pretty severe and the main reason she got the F was that she denied everything to the bitter end.

Generally speaking, though, most cheating cases end with a zero on the assignment and, if they are adjudicated by the dean's office, a mark on the transcript that indicates the student was found guilty of academic misconduct or of violating the honor code. I suggest angling for any outcome that doesn't involve a finding note on the transcript, as that will follow you for life.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 2:59 pm to
Explain to your teacher that you are not dishonest ... you are just lazy.

Isn't lazy a protected group now?
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25428 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:02 pm to
Huh. That's something I didn't think about. An academic misconduct note going on the transcript. So if you apply for graduate school or maybe a potential employer wants to verify your education and requests your transcript they would have a documented case of dishonesty. That's a disconcerting thought.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30048 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

At LSU almost all the professors have students use turnitin.



That shite only works if the two parties are fricking idiots.

I literally used to just quote pages and pages of material. frick em.

I loved going in for revisions to point out they were critiquing their heroes.

Chicago style citation is your friend. Most are too stupid to understand it.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:09 pm to
So how did it go for you OP? We are waiting.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:10 pm to
start applying to community colleges
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

start applying to community colleges


High schools with ashtrays. Almost completely useless. Do a trade school instead.
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