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re: Got a serious question for the OT: got caught cheating on a paper

Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49100 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Writing papers is great for the learning process, probably regardless of the field that you are in. A person never delves as deeply into a subject matter as when you have to examine and organize the information in order to put it into your own words. This is how you demonstrate that you truly understand something. By having to communicate the information you have to understand the information. Other forms of testing you can get around having to thoroughly having to understand it as much as writing a paper.


I .... Did nothing!!!

TLDR Writing is stupid.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 11:48 am
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6626 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:34 pm to
Check the obituaries tomorrow for OT's school life
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:37 pm to
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all I need is for the school to hand me my degree and I've got 4 places I know I could work 3 high schools and 1 college if I wanted to be a ga. They wouldn't even look at my resume I know the coaches at every stop. So as long as I've got that piece of paper I already know the people I need to get a job.


But as someone else said, your primary job is as a teacher. If you have already shown yourself as lazy (Only thing I’m good at is sports but I didn’t want to play college because it’s too much work) and unwilling to do what your “boss” orders you to because you deem it busy work, you are going to have fun fun fun writing lesson plans.

And you probably think that with your coaching prowess in spite of no collegiate experience they’ll overlook it.

You are going to be a sandwich artist within the next 5 years.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:42 pm to
OP


I write essays for money on the side. Something I like to do.
Full refund if you get less than a 90.

I took my friend's fiancee's entire online history class for her. An A and I never read the book.
History is my favorite subject. I'm studying early Byzantium now.

But don't get a history degree......I fix appliances.
I could have been a microbiologist. Lol
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:51 pm to
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I once argued with a teacher that Cleopatra was more a greek than an Egyptian.
Ptolemy = greek.
His dynasty subjicated ethnic Egyptians. So likely Cleopatra was a greek.
But I was wrong for saying she was a greek?-
Please. Egypt had 33 dynasties. The last the Ptolemies were Greek.


Point being. It's not about being right it's about telling the teacher what they want


My biggest faux paux was writing a paper in an argumentative writing class that spoke complimentary of Hitler specifically regarding the build up to a world power from the depths of depression, hyperinflation, and restrictions from Versailles in so short a time. I did make a point to meation multiple times I wasn’t speaking complimentary of his character or what he chose to do with that power. I wasn’t going to go THAT contrarian.


I found out later the teacher was a Jew.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:54 pm to
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But don't get a history degree......I fix appliances.
I could have been a microbiologist. Lol


I bet you can pick up on Pseudomonas aeruginosa like a fricking bloodhound.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21082 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:56 pm to
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But as someone else said, your primary job is as a teacher. If you have already shown yourself as lazy (Only thing I’m good at is sports but I didn’t want to play college because it’s too much work) and unwilling to do what your “boss” orders you to because you deem it busy work, you are going to have fun fun fun writing lesson plans.

And you probably think that with your coaching prowess in spite of no collegiate experience they’ll overlook it


There are a number of areas in the South where he will not be a teacher first. Maybe in name only, but in my time as a high school teacher, football coaches didn’t need to do jack in the classroom. I was one of them.

It’s a sad state of things right now, but he’s probably very right about all of this. He doesn’t need to write papers. Just needs the degree certificate to get his coaching job. Doesn’t mean it’s best for society, education, or his own development as a person. He’d be a better coach if could write that English paper. But he’ll get by just fine if he can draw x’s and o’s.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:59 pm to
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The teacher emailed me today asking for me to meet her next Tuesday to discuss a paper I wrote about 2 weeks ago. She also sent the same email to the girl I copied off of who had the class last semester. I've already decided to just come clean but I'm wondering what can I expect and what would be something I could do to lesson the blow.


The teacher should automatically give you a failing grade for starters.

You should be glad if you don't also get kicked out of school for cheating.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:00 pm to
Note the second part of the comment.

If he’s a shite coach they won’t tolerate him being a shite teacher as well and use that to fire him.

You really think this individual will be able to connect and motivate high schoolers? HE frickING PASSED ON PLAYING HIS PREFERRED SPORT AT A HIGHER LEVEL BECAUSE IT WAS TOO MUCH WORK.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:04 pm to
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My biggest faux paux was writing a paper in an argumentative writing class that spoke complimentary of Hitler specifically regarding the build up to a world power from the depths of depression, hyperinflation, and restrictions from Versailles in so short a time. I did make a point to meation multiple times I wasn’t speaking complimentary of his character or what he chose to do with that power. I wasn’t going to go THAT contrarian.



Was listening to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History the other day, and he mentioned that he had a great idea for a book that he'd never write but was almost certain it would one day be written and that person would get famous quickly: A Defense of the Third Reich and everything good it did for the world.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:16 pm to
Yeah. You have to try and figure out the teacher. I listen for code words. Generally their political opinion will influence their grading of the paper.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:17 pm to
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what would be something I could do to lesson the blow.

I'm only on page 3, please tell me someone has at least made fun of him for "lesson" instead of "lessen"?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:19 pm to
I'm a fan of Bacterial study, even opportunistic ones.
Viral research fascinates me.
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:19 pm to
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I'm wondering what can I expect and what would be something I could do



be smart and write your own papers

quote:

I could do to lesson the blow


Oh I get it...you're dumb
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
27099 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:45 pm to
Jesus. If you can't, or don't want to, write a paper yourself, then don't copy off someone else's paper who had the class the year before you. Pull your wallet out and hire someone to write that sucker for you.

Then, once they are done, you go over it and change a few things so it seems more like your writing style.

I always had my clients sit down and go over a paper I had written for them to do that. A few hundred papers later none of them were caught.

Cheating is fine. Its an honored tradition in academia after all. But learning how not to get caught at is one of the most important lessons you can ever learn.
Posted by Central Tiger
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
2714 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:07 pm to
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obviously i mean I'm gonna teach pe and probably try to test out to teach history. I like history. I just hate writing papers I don't see the point in it.


Good, because that’s what your college career is, slick.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26236 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:21 pm to
You should get an F in the class for cheating.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5775 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:27 pm to
I remember hearing that. I think it was in Wrath of Khans. Dan is the man.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25522 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:47 pm to
OP will just get a zero for the paper and probably limit your grade to a C or below.

Just be apologetic. They don't want to expel anyone.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:51 pm to
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