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re: GOLDMAN SACHS: College may not be worth it

Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11985 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:11 pm to
Nah baw, if you're good enough they will seduce you. read flash boys, those computer nerds are wined and dined and highly desired. if you have no experience than that's an entirely different circumstance.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:11 pm to
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GOLDMAN SACHS: College may not be worth it



Are they removing the college degree requirements from their upper management job postings then?



This. All of their job postings. That's the problem with this statement. Until businesses stop relying on college to be the first layer of job application hiring, a college degree is basically required.

But not only that, are they removing their, most likely, prestigious college requirement to even sniff that upper tier? I doubt a Southern grad ever has a shot at Executive Leadership at GS.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:12 pm to
Yeah, Goldman Sachs can go frick themselves.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:14 pm to
Where do you live? Because 100k doesn't go far in New Orleans.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:23 pm to
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Where do you live? Because 100k doesn't go far in New Orleans.



Really? I think it could go far enough.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:23 pm to
I'm not struggling by any means, but I also don't own a home or have kids yet. Modest homes (~1500 sq ft) in a good part of the city are 400k+. Not to mention private school for kids.

ETA: I'm also far from "shitty" with money, I have a graduate degree and my wife will graduate with a doctorate in about a year with no student loan debt.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:26 pm to
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I'm not struggling by any means, but I also don't own a home or have kids yet.


So how is $100K not enough? No offense but saying $100k isn't enough when you don't even have kids just wreaks of bad financial habits.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:28 pm to
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I'm not struggling by any means, but I also don't own a home or have kids yet.


So how is $100K not enough?


Because I couldn't own a home and have kids while only making 100k?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:30 pm to
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No offense but saying $100k isn't enough when you don't even have kids just wreaks of bad financial habits.


Look at my edit and last post. It's enough for me now, but not in the future.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Because I couldn't own a home and have kids


Why aren't you planning for that now if that's in your future?

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while only making 100k?


$100k a year is not "only" money. Families do just fine with 3/4ths of that.

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I'm also far from "shitty" with money, I have a graduate degree and my wife will graduate with a doctorate in about a year with no student loan debt.


You don't even have kids yet and your saying $100k isn't enough. That is being shitty with money. Maybe your "enough" isn't what my "enough" is.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:45 pm to
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I would almost guarantee you if you were an exceptional quant/programmer without a degree they would pay you handsomely. If you can make them money, there are no barriers to entry.


True, but that's pretty niche within Goldman. That's, what, probably less than 5% of their work force? 2%?

They aren't rolling out high school drop outs when they're running most of their core assets.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:47 pm to
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You don't even have kids yet and your saying $100k isn't enough. That is being shitty with money. Maybe your "enough" isn't what my "enough" is.



I was speaking to the future, it's totally enough for me right now.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40380 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:51 pm to
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flash boys


Well, you and I both know that is the rare exception.

Money trumps all, but getting through the door w/o an innovative idea or process is next to impossible.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31635 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:58 pm to
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This. We have gone back in time where a skill means more to a company than a new college grad with a degree and no experience.


bullshite. This environment has been created by companies using college to outsource training. Want a job? Get a degree. That way we dont have to pay you anything to teach you a skill.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11985 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:58 pm to
oh ya, total outlier. My point was if you are good enough, your education doesn't matter.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:01 pm to
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But not only that, are they removing their, most likely, prestigious college requirement to even sniff that upper tier? I doubt a Southern grad ever has a shot at Executive Leadership at GS.


To be fair a good friend is an executive at GS. Graduated from SUNY Albany, then Fordham MBA once he was already at GS.

It isn't all Ivy League grads.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:03 pm to
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100k a year is not "only" money. Families do just fine with 3/4ths of that.


I think you would do well to factor cost of living into your Equation.

75k in BR doesn't equal 75k in NYC. Two totally different ballparks.

Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:06 pm to
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What's the alternative?


Plant work
Welding
Plumbing
AC repair
Auto Mechanic
Armed Forces
Law Enforcement
Construction
Pilot
Pipe fitter
Tug Boat Captain
President of the US

Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:09 pm to
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I think you would do well to factor cost of living into your Equation.

75k in BR doesn't equal 75k in NYC. Two totally different ballparks.


Thanks, sherlock.
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