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re: Godspeed the crew of Artemis II...Re-Entry takes place tonight

Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:46 pm to
I was confused why the NASA PR person just said "they will be the first humans to see the dark side of the moon"

I thought the Apollo missions orbited the planet, especially 13 to slingshot back..

Here's the answer

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But Artemis II’s figure-eight will differ from Apollo 8’s and nearly every manned mission in history — it will skip the lunar orbits, but give humans the first extensive look at the far side of the moon through their own eyes.

All previous manned missions routinely flew around the far side of the moon — which perpetually faces away from Earth — but were planned so that the sun constantly shone on the nearside to allow for safe landings and productive moonwalks.

That meant the far side was almost entirely hidden in shadow throughout Apollo — and that most of it has only ever been seen through photographs from unmanned probes.

Artemis II will change that. The mission will pass over the far side in full sunlight and allow for direct observation of the moon’s hidden surface by the astronauts onboard.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:49 pm to
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Anything at all to even hint at a scrubbed launch?
They fixed all the outstanding issues from previous tests, and even replaced some potential problem parts that didn't need repair out of an abundance of caution, but the vehicle was rolled back to the building for service and then back out to the pad, so it's possible, even if unlikely, that something could come up during fueling.

The things to watch will be--

1) ground comms (issues during at least 2 tests)

2) hydrogen loading and top-off, specifically at the tail mast umbilical (almost always some leakage, but scrubbed the first WDR attempt due to excessive leaking)

3) helium flow into the upper stage (most recent issue that led to rollback to VAB for service)
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48997 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:58 pm to
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allow for direct observation of the moon’s hidden surface by the astronauts onboard.
not to downplay the mission but it pretty much looks like the rest of the moon, and we’ve seen the pictures to prove it. It’s not that big a deal LOL
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53467 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:03 pm to
This isn’t really about the science, although they are doing odds and ends.

This is mostly a field test of the equipment.

Remember they took 10 missions before getting to the one where they landed. They are doing it in 3
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
8321 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:05 pm to
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In the year of 2026, they aren’t even LANDING on the moon… just FYI

In the year of 2026, tPear returned to LSU and Jimbo landed in teh mud
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:05 pm to
Yes I know, just amused by that PR release
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85102 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:06 pm to
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It’s not that big a deal LOL


Tell that to Pink Floyd
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:10 pm to
I didn’t realize this: NASA has decided that Artemis III will not land on the Moon. It will be flown in low Earth orbit to test docking procedures with the lunar landing systems developed by SpaceX and Blue Origin. This will be similar to the Apollo 9 mission. Artemis IV is now planned to be the first mission to the lunar surface.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 2:11 pm
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32061 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:11 pm to
Hope Boeing’s QC on this thing is better than their planes.
Posted by Shorty_price
Member since Oct 2018
413 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:32 pm to
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Tell that to Pink Floyd

There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122173 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:40 pm to
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wonder if one of them got the am/pm switch on the alarm clocks backwards.


You know the black dude is on CPT... Joking
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85102 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:45 pm to
Crazy to think this is the first manned flight on this specific rocket. They had a test in 2022 and then "frick it, lets just send people around the moon".
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:49 pm to
Send it!!!!!
American way!
God Bless them and safe travels if go green!!!!
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:09 pm to
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Crazy to think this is the first manned flight on this specific rocket. They had a test in 2022 and then "frick it, lets just send people around the moon".

Taxpayer money

I'm sure NASA would love the private money to do what Elon's doing with Starship
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:29 pm to
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They had a test in 2022 and then "frick it, lets just send people around the moon".


There's a lot of reused parts from previous successful missions that adds confidence. Their biggest issue has just been getting it launch ready and off the pad.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85102 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:31 pm to
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Their biggest issue has just been getting it launch ready and off the pad.


Well lets hope it gets off the pad... don't need another Challenger situation.

Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:31 pm to
wait this isn't an April Fools joke?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68471 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:35 pm to
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Well lets hope it gets off the pad... don't need another Challenger situation.


I should clarify, the issues that they've had would stop the launch before it happened and are mostly on the ground equipment side of things, not the fuel tanks themselves.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87372 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:35 pm to
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Crazy to think this is the first manned flight on this specific rocket. They had a test in 2022 and then "frick it, lets just send people around the moon".



lol exactly

I know it's not like that, but for someone who watches all the starship/space x tests on their fast op tempo, it's unsettling

"hey this worked 5 years ago, and I think we cleaned up that massive failure from the dry run 45 days ago, we're good to send 4 souls the farthest anyone has ever been from Earth, right? Send it"
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75174 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:37 pm to
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Their biggest issue has just been getting it launch ready and off the pad.

I once experienced similar troubles with a 1993 Buick Lesabre. Admittedly, the stakes weren't nearly as high in the event of failure. Me and the rest of the crew would have just been afoot for a few miles in the south Alabama August heat.
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