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re: Godspeed the crew of Artemis II...Re-Entry takes place tonight

Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:19 pm to
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My grandpa was chief engineer of all 5 3rd stages of the v on the moon. 2 of my cousins' other grandpa was lead designer of the crawler-transporter.


Pretty much everyone around an aeronautics town claims to have "worked on the moon missions". Even if accurate, they were probably part of the bloat that slowed manned moon missions to a crawl.

You don't like like Isaacman because of who he was appointed by because of your political leanings.

Radical leadership leads to quick changes. It's a fact that Isaacman and the Trump admin have cleared every hurdle necessary to get this rocket launched today.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:33 pm to
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My grandpa was chief engineer of all 5 3rd stages of the v on the moon.


There were nine that went to the moon, and six that landed.
Posted by GoRuckTiger
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:39 pm to
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This is all the space they have. For ten days



Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:39 pm to


Because there was a lot of trajectory talk earlier.
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:43 pm to
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There were nine that went to the moon, and six that landed.

And yet they only crashed the 3rd stage into the moon on 5 of them. It's incredibly easy to look up and verify. You can even find pictures of the sites.
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:44 pm to
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You don't like like Isaacman because of who he was appointed by because of your political leanings.


No, i just don't like you giving a decade+ of hard work credit to someone there for only 4 months.
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Pretty much everyone around an aeronautics town claims to have "worked on the moon missions". Even if accurate, they were probably part of the bloat that slowed manned moon missions to a crawl.


Yes, lead designer of the crawler-transporter and chief engineer of the saturn iv-b were definitely bloat jobs. Right about here is where you should've heeded your misguided advice to me
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If you don't know anything, stay quiet.
Posted by WestSideTiger
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:51 pm to
Live shot right now inside the capsule from the youtube link I posted earlier.

Ya, it's a bit tight in there.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:55 pm to
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If you're under 53 years old, you have never once been alive while a human was farther than 250 miles from Earth. Tonight, four astronauts are heading 252,000 miles out. That's a thousand times farther than any person has gone in your lifetime.

The 250-mile ceiling is where the International Space Station floats. Every astronaut since December 1972 has been stuck in that zone. Spacewalks, science experiments, cool photos from orbit, sure. But nobody left the neighborhood.

The last crew to go farther was Apollo 17. December 1972. Nixon was president. The internet didn't exist. Cell phones were 11 years away. The youngest member of that crew is now 90 years old.

The farthest any human has ever been from Earth is 248,655 miles. The Apollo 13 crew set that number in 1970, and they didn't mean to. Their oxygen tank blew up, and the emergency route home took them farther out than anyone before or since. Tonight's crew will break that record on purpose.

And the crew itself. Victor Glover becomes the first Black astronaut to leave Earth's neighborhood. Christina Koch becomes the first woman. Jeremy Hansen, a Canadian fighter pilot, becomes the first non-American to do so. When they come home, they'll slam into the atmosphere at 25,000 mph, faster than any human has ever traveled.

The Moon's south pole has ice. Water ice, sitting in craters so deep that sunlight hasn't hit them in billions of years. A 2024 NASA study found way more of it than anyone expected. You can split water into hydrogen and oxygen, which gives you rocket fuel, breathable air, and drinking water, all made on the Moon instead of hauled up from Earth. George Sowers at Colorado School of Mines calculated that Moon-made fuel could shave $12 billion off a single trip to Mars. The Moon is a gas station on the road to Mars.

NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman announced last week a $20 billion plan to build a permanent base at the South Pole over the next seven years, with landings every six months. China is developing its own lunar lander and spacesuit, aiming for a crewed landing by 2030. The Artemis program has burned through $93 billion so far, and the first actual surface landing is penciled in for 2028. There's a real question of who gets there first this time around.

Harrison Schmitt walked on the Moon in December 1972 as part of Apollo 17. He's 90. Asked about it this week, he sounded pretty relaxed. "Mars is attainable," he said. "We're humans. That's what we've always done."
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:59 pm to
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Live shot right now inside the capsule from the youtube link I posted earlier.
Alright... my first mindblowing moment. I'm holding a cell phone in my hand (thousands of times more powerful than what went up for the last moon trip), Youtube open, and now I'm watching astronauts in space chilling as they prepare to go to the freaking moon. Top that with them now "welcoming [us] on board". US freaking A (and our 51st state tagging along).
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:01 pm to
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No, i just don't like you giving a decade+ of hard work credit to someone there for only 4 months.
My original post said pending what happens on the Artemis mission. I never claimed he was solely responsible. You made that incorrect logical leap.
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Yes, lead designer of the crawler-transporter and chief engineer of the saturn iv-b
I'm still curious what your pee-paw allegedly did decades ago is relevant to your knowledge of what Isaacman is doing now
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:03 pm to
Here's a fun one for you:

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Computational Speed: The Nvidia RTX 5090 delivers approximately 104.8 TFLOPS (Teraflops) of peak FP32 computing power. In contrast, the Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) could execute only about 85,000 instructions per second (0.085 MIPS).
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:12 pm to
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If you're under 53 years old, you have never once been alive while a human was farther than 250 miles from Earth. Tonight, four astronauts are heading 252,000 miles out. That's a thousand times farther than any person has gone in your lifetime.

The 250-mile ceiling is where the International Space Station floats. Every astronaut since December 1972 has been stuck in that zone. Spacewalks, science experiments, cool photos from orbit, sure. But nobody left the neighborhood.
Alright so both of these two things can not be true. Hubble was at a much higher altitude than the ISS. They went there for repairs twice (once for the lens error and the second for maintenance before the STS was retired).
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:12 pm to
One thing that’s mind blowing about the Apollo computers is how little software it had. So much of it was physically hardwired, with visible cabling.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:15 pm to
When will they traverse thru the Van Allen radiation belt?
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:16 pm to
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I'm still curious what your pee-paw allegedly did decades ago is relevant to your knowledge of what Isaacman is doing now

From my original reply to you
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I strongly suspect i just spent the day with people who know much more about nasa than you could pretend to know, as most were first gen space kids from the late 60s, many working at the cape or recently retired from.

Yeah, it's just baffling that current employees would know anything about their workplace, especially compared to say, you.
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:17 pm to
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I'm still curious what your pee-paw allegedly did decades ago is relevant to your knowledge of what Isaacman is doing now
As a mutual 3rd party... He says he grew up around people who were very important to those missions. I'm sure the argument is that he picked up on things being around them. He's less than an "outsider" than you are. He knows what the climate was and the world can see what it is now thanks to the media.

I'm not saying either of you are right or wrong but I do see the argument he is making.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:24 pm to
So you're glossing over your lie that I said Isaacman was solely responsible, which you did so you could try and flex who you know as noted below.

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I strongly suspect i just spent the day with people who know much more about nasa than you could pretend to know, as most were first gen space kids from the late 60s, many working at the cape or recently retired from.


Sounds like Isaacman coming in and laying down the law pissed them off. Expected when someone from outside comes in and makes big program changes.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:29 pm to
They’ve already flown in and out of it. Will pass through it one more time before leaving earth orbit.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 9:33 pm
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