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re: GM: No more gas or diesel cars or SUVs by 2035; Silverado and Yukons going electric too

Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:49 pm to
I doubt I will be buying anymore vehicles by then, so I'm good.
Posted by ehidal1
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Member since Dec 2007
37322 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:51 pm to
Sounds like the GM unions got their boy back in office. Been a while since cash for clunkers, so they needed to get paid.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
25617 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:54 pm to
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So long roadtrips by vehicle are a thing of the past with a GM vehicle at that point?


I'm just picturing having to evacuate Katrina style, and being stuck in contraflow traffic for 9+ hours.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7702 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:58 pm to
This is not possible.

You cannot manufacture that many batteries.

We do not have the power generation to power all these batteries.

This is just silly.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94776 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Aren’t they dead last for initial quality?


But is it the same exact product as it was in 2008? There has been ZERO improvements in 14 years? If that were true, would people even be buying Tesla cars? Why would the car still be available ?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:02 pm to
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So long roadtrips by vehicle are a thing of the past with a GM vehicle at that point?
I have an EV and have taken long road trips.

quote:

No current electric vehicle can make it across all of Texas on a single charge.

And how many of those GM cars can go around 800 miles on 1 tank of gas currently?



Also, think about how far the technology has come in just the last 10 years, why would you assume it will be exactly the same 15 years from now?
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:02 pm to
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I doubt I will be buying anymore vehicles by then, so I'm good.


Most people will utilize an uber like app by then to summon driverless cars wherever they want to go. I imagine vehicle ownership will drop.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:04 pm to
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It only takes you 5 minutes to fill your vehicle vs a 1hr + full charge at a supercharging station
15 minutes to charge up enough to get you to the next charging station.

Not 1 hour.

5 minutes to tank up, 15 minutes to charge up.


Now think about how long that may be 15 years from now...
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:05 pm to
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think about a place like Buc-ee’s where the people have to stay at a pump for 30 minutes in order to “fill up.” Absolute nightmare
Wait, it'll be an absolute nightmare when people spend 30 minutes at Bucees? You say that like that's not exactly what happens today.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14906 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:07 pm to
They'd better figure out battery life.
Posted by texn
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:09 pm to
I'm still waiting on the flying cars that they promised that everyone would have by now.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88439 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:10 pm to
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I'm still waiting on the flying cars that they promised that everyone would have by now.



check with your boy Elroy about that
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34220 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:10 pm to
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And how many of those GM cars can go around 800 miles on 1 tank of gas currently?


Zero but it’s a five minute fill up and you’re on the road.

The power infrastructure needs a massive overhaul (think trillions) in order to facilitate an entire electric fleet to happen in the United States for those 5 minute fill ups to happen and what is going to power that entire grid?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:11 pm to
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First Tesla was delivered 02/2008, that’s 13 years ago. What has changed in that time that makes you think this will work in 14 years
Range and charge time have changed drastically, so again, why would you think it won't get any better in the next 13-15 years?
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10675 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:11 pm to
Sorry, but no battery can outperform a diesel motor for longevity and torque. Not to mention, replacement batteries for hybrids are around $5000 and nearly double that for a full electric car. You have to replace them every 80,000 to 100,000 miles. Ridiculous.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28259 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:11 pm to
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So long roadtrips by vehicle are a thing of the past with a GM vehicle at that point?


When they restrict travel to only those with the proper authorization, you won't have to worry about it.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34220 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Wait, it'll be an absolute nightmare when people spend 30 minutes at Bucees? You say that like that's not exactly what happens today.



Buc-ees might have been a bad example since they have the capacity with 100+ pumps to allow for people to stay on the pumps for that long. A better example would be those smaller gas stations you find in rural areas (between major cities) that only have 4 or 6 pumps.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38885 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:14 pm to
What an epic frickin disaster that would be. These people are run by complete retards


The environmental impact of everyone driving electric with the batteries would insane
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:16 pm to
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After a major hurricane or major ice storm, how will folks charge up?

Your car will be fully charged at the outset, so you won't need to charge again immediately

If you live in a very rural area, yes this could be an issue.

Anywhere else and you likely have at least 1 supercharger nearby and dozens upon dozens of standalone chargers you can use.

There's obviously examples of hurricanes where your house may lose power for, say, a couple of weeks, but it's not like every single business in a 20 or so minute radius of you will also be without power for that long. Even in the recent Lafayette hurricanes where some people went without power for over a month, the supercharging station there as well as many other destination chargers weren't all out for a month as well.

In short, there are plenty of places to get a charge.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11152 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:17 pm to
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My vehicle sure as shite can't go across Texas on one tank of gas either.


What an idiotic rebuttal.
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