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re: 'Ghost' students have become an issue, making up 50% of enrollment at some schools

Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Boss13
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:35 pm to
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still i would think at some point in the process, an actual student has to show their ID IRL...


Racist
Posted by Eternalmajin
Member since Jun 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:56 pm to
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How do the scammers get the $? Aid is paid directly to the school.


Difference between aid awarded and tuition/fees is refunded back to the student. Scammer will make sure to request the maximum amount of aid available and take whatever they can get. They also do "participate" in the class to keep it going as long as they can. ChatGPT for assignments/test, usually seem to avoid any courses that require video interaction but it's not unheard of for them to do so.

Some places have not adjusted away from pre-online program day where you didn't need to worry about this because the students were there in person at some point. A lot of this shite is preventable just by looking at the submitted information. Phone numbers all over the place, fake transcripts copied and pasted with a logo they found of the school, obvious shite. These places with 10000+ fake accounts were doing no checks at all and just accepting every submitted application.
Posted by Winterbush
Member since Jan 2021
108 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:13 pm to
Ever since that woman was carjacked on campus at UNO, that campus has been a ghost town with half to three quarter empty parking lots. I've been wondering how they even maintain any financial viability. As arse-backwards and inept as their DEI administration team is, I wouldn't doubt it if there were 5,000 ghost students at UNO alone.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Difference between aid awarded and tuition/fees is refunded back to the student
Gotcha
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32701 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:18 pm to
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physically show up and present a valid ID?


That's racist.
Posted by nosaj
Member since Sep 2010
2529 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:18 pm to
Another problem is universities using online enrollment data to boost the overall enrollment number. NWST does this and it brings business to Natchitoches that ultimately fails because the actual physical student body is much smaller than the “total” number.

That’s probably more an issue of who’s distributing the data to profit, but it’s still an issue.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:19 pm to
This would never have happened at LSU if they still had to call and deal with REGGIE to schedule classes.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
11445 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:59 pm to
Everything the federal government turns to shite.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11963 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 2:24 pm to
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I will say that some students sign up for extra classes and choose sections with popular professors even though they do not need that class. Those sections typically fill up very quickly. They then sell their seat to another student and coordinate the drop and add with each other before payment is made.

Man, scalpers really are out of control these days.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 3:04 pm to
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This started with the GI Bill.
Taken on face, we are looking at a benefit to federal employees from the federal govt. This is manageable, or at least should be. What it has become is a giant boondoggle.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
51954 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 3:30 pm to
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still i would think at some point in the process, an actual student has to show their ID IRL before they're officially in the system


These are Democrats though… might not have one

And the colleges don’t mind… more enrollment equals more funding
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
1466 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 3:47 pm to
Can confirm the colleges and universities I’ve worked for have dealt with this as early as spring of last year…

EDIT: Lots of this thread are spot on from my experiences.
They stay long enough for the refund. Then the refund is funneled straight to the student.
Online students don’t typically submit identification to enroll… however, most classes require a student ID for proctored testing.
Which is mostly done remotely by AI which can be “tricked”.
Transcripts and IDs are being faked using AI… they’re really good.
They are doing it from the top SEC type schools down to Community Colleges.
It’s a massive loss of revenue which absolutely impacts tuition.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Spankum
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Member since Jan 2007
58748 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:15 pm to
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'Ghost' students have become an issue, making up 50% of enrollment at some schools


Honestly, This sounds like a bunch of bullshite to me…
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
13660 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:24 pm to
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do they not require them to physically show up and present a valid ID?

ID’s are racist remember. You shouldn’t have to prove who you are. Poor people find it difficult to get an ID. Also, people shouldn’t have to show up in person, lol.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38698 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:30 pm to
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What it has become is a giant boondoggle.



During the first Gulf War, when they mobilized the reservists, I saw someone tell a reporter something like, "I didn't join the military to go to war, I joined it to pay for college".
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