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re: Georgia shooter was given an AR - 15 for Christmas from his father!
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:00 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:00 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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We're talking red flag laws here. Start a new thread on your "hood killings" if you want to talk about that.
See....pretty fricking convenient, you disingenuous piece of shite.
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:01 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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I don't know, but I would imagine a fricking kid calling in threats to shoot up multiple schools would PROBABLY qualify as a pretty good fricking reason to remove weapons from the home and prevent any guardian from purchasing weapons.
Kid shouldn't have had access, but no I disagree with that. If it was actionable and the kid went to juvie I would agree, but there were never even charges filed. Dad was a goddamn moron, but I don't understand how people can support red flag laws when there isn't even enough to bring charges against someone.
Last I checked, death threats are not protected under the first and are in fact illegal.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:02 pm to Nolalakeview
oh my goodness what a stupid frick
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:04 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:These are the same individuals who push to ban minor traffic stops because they were finding contraband and it was deemed racist.
You're really going to try to use Chicago for any gun crime talk? Really? Do some research on repeat offenders, catch and release, and how they rarely prosecute felon gun possession cases and get back to me.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:05 pm to Jcorye1
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What level of mental illness means a person forfeits their right to defend themselves, and why would it be different than the required steps it takes to have someone forceably committed and/or lose the ability to vote?
Making credible threats about shooting up schools while living in a home with unsecured weapons?
Seems like an appropriate level.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:06 pm to Baers Foot
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Making credible threats about shooting up schools while living in a home with unsecured weapons?
Seems like an appropriate level.
Again why wasn't the kid arrested, why wasn't he tried, convicted? Stop skipping steps, assuming the kid made a threat, he should be tried and punished. They didn't even kick him out of school it seems.
Like any other right, it should be difficult to remove, and there should be hurdles such as, you know, actually being put in the legal system.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:09 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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That is 100% blatantly false. The only reason they didn't remove the guns is because GA doesn't have Red Flag laws and the dad told the police the guns were secured. The kid absolutely made the calls. The FBI caught him and referred the matter to the locals.
Why are you just making up bullshite?
He never made any “calls.”
The FBI didn’t “catch him.” If they did, he would have been arrested.
The local PD did a poor job investigating. They probably didn’t even know what discord was. And could have asked more questions like:
“How did you know your account was hacked”?
“Did you know what messages were being sent after it was hacked?”
“Did you report that your account was hacked? If not, why not?”
A kid will slip up and say shite that doesn’t add up. It seems like they just took the kid at his word. Which is dumb.
Cop: “Did you commit this crime so we can arrest you?”
Colt Gay : “of course not officer.”
Cop: “case closed”
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:11 pm to Jcorye1
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Again why wasn't the kid arrested, why wasn't he tried, convicted?
Because Georgia does not have universal background checks for gun purchases, safe storage laws or red-flag laws; because the minute common sense regulations are brought up, "you shall not infringe" lunatics come out the woodworks and Congressmen make campaign videos shooting AR-15s.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:11 pm to mmmmmbeeer
You can’t possibly believe the high ground bullshite you are typing. A family’s teenager makes a threat this the entire’s family’s rights are immediately revoked.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:14 pm to Baers Foot
quote:Why wasn’t he arrested for the threats?
Because Georgia does not have universal background checks for gun purchases, safe storage laws or red-flag laws; because the minute common sense regulations are brought up, "you shall not infringe" lunatics come out the woodworks and Congressmen make campaign videos shooting AR-15s.
You cannot make terroristic threats.
There are laws in Georgia against that.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:19 pm to Baers Foot
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Because Georgia does not have universal background checks for gun purchases, safe storage laws or red-flag laws; because the minute common sense regulations are brought up, "you shall not infringe" lunatics come out the woodworks and Congressmen make campaign videos shooting AR-15s.
Because they do have background checks. You have no idea what you're talking about, yet are using the generic talking points. Safe storage? I don't have kids, so why do I need safe storage in my house? Let me know when red flag laws apply to the other rights in the Constitution and I'll consider it. If you can't handle a firearm, you can't handle freedom of speech and the right to vote.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:20 pm to Baers Foot
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Making credible threats about shooting up schools while living in a home with unsecured weapons?
Even one with no arrest or prosecution? Careful, anyone can say you threatened them and create reason to have your lawful right to gun ownership stripped.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:20 pm to Scruffy
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Why wasn’t he arrested for the threats?
You cannot make terroristic threats.
There are laws in Georgia against that.
Good question. Another part of the puzzle.
Ok, let's hypothetically say he gets arrested. Sentence is reduced from 5 years to 1 on good behavior. Reenrolls in school. He still lives in a house with unsecured guns.
Let's plug all the holes along the hypothetical. Get tougher on juveniles making terroristic threats, pass safe storage laws, and red-flag laws.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:21 pm to Baers Foot
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Ok, let's hypothetically say he gets arrested. Sentence is reduced from 5 years to 1 on good behavior. Reenrolls in school. He still lives in a house with unsecured guns.
Which would be illegal assuming he's on parole
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:26 pm to Jcorye1
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Again why wasn't the kid arrested, why wasn't he tried, convicted? Stop skipping steps, assuming the kid made a threat, he should be tried and punished. They didn't even kick him out of school it seems.
Like any other right, it should be difficult to remove, and there should be hurdles such as, you know, actually being put in the legal system.
I don't really disagree with your points. However, I can also understand people seeing it as uselessly throwing ones hands up in the air to just say "mentally ill people are the problem, not guns".
Since, based on the sheer frequency of these shootings, America certainly seems to have a ton of "mentally ill" teenagers.
And, anyone who's dealt with, say, an aging parent with dementia knows there is a big distance between someone being quite obviously mentally unstable and it being legally actionable.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:28 pm to Jcorye1
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Which would be illegal assuming he's on parole
Oh no, so his dad's rights are taken away because his son is on parole?!?!? What a slippery slope.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:32 pm to Baers Foot
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Oh no, so his dad's rights are taken away because his son is on parole?!?!? What a slippery slope.
What? Someone was tried and convicted, and was held against their will at jail in this stupid scenario.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:34 pm to wm72
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However, I can also understand people seeing it as uselessly throwing ones hands up in the air to just say "mentally ill people are the problem, not guns".
Sucks, I am not a fan of creating express lines to violate people's rights without due process.
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And, anyone who's dealt with, say, an aging parent with dementia knows there is a big distance between someone being quite obviously mentally unstable and it being legally actionable.
I've dealt with this, and we had to go through the courts to get the power to remove their ability to pay scams. It sucks, but it should be hard to take people's rights.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:38 pm to Baers Foot
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universal background checks for gun purchases, safe storage laws or red-flag laws
Zero common sense with any of these. You low-IQ clowns are a dime a dozen in these threads.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:47 pm to Clames
Illuminate us with your high-IQ. What are ways we can address mass shootings moving forward? Or just carry on?
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