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re: Georgia shooter was given an AR - 15 for Christmas from his father!

Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:43 am to
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:43 am to
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Unless you want to advocate for extending those red flags to family and friends, which if you do.....you can go frick yourself.
That is exactly what he wants.

Like I said, give the progressives an inch, and they take a mile.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:43 am to
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frick off.


kid makes a "deemed threat".


fbi barges in house, we need all your weapons now, your gun rights are now immediately revoked.


this is your literal argument.



People kill people, not guns, right?

But if you know the person was a threat to kill, as was the case here, we just ignore that?

So, in other words, it doesn't matter if it's the gun or the person...killing with guns is just a way of American life so suck it up and enjoy the freedom of the 2nd amendment? Seems that's your argument.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:44 am to
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That is exactly what he wants.


So you're also just one to say "frick it....free for all. Kids die, they die. In fact, just buy guns for all the mentally unstable. Freedom!!!"
Posted by GaPhan
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:44 am to
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But if you know the person was a threat to kill, as was the case here, we just ignore that?


How do you know?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:46 am to
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Did you see my next post where someone actually excused his dad giving the shooter the AR-15?
My bad, wasn't trying to come at you. I meant more as a general comment sorry.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:47 am to
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He was questioned by the Jackson County SO and they found no evidence proving the kid made the threat.


That is 100% blatantly false. The only reason they didn't remove the guns is because GA doesn't have Red Flag laws and the dad told the police the guns were secured. The kid absolutely made the calls. The FBI caught him and referred the matter to the locals.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:47 am to
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So you're also just one to say "frick it....free for all. Kids die, they die. In fact, just buy guns for all the mentally unstable. Freedom!!!"
I am one for actually looking in to why these individuals actually do it, determine why we have had an increase in school shootings when back in the day people had guns in their trucks on school property and it didn’t happen, increasing inpatient psych placement, and harshly punishing all individuals who perform criminal acts with a firearm (mandatory minimum of 10 years for violent crimes with firearms and life if you have a past felony).
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 11:49 am
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:49 am to
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How do you know?


See my comment above. I don't know what kinda fricked up "news" you read/follow, but the kid was absolutely guilty of calling in threats. That's LITERALLY why the dad is in jail charged with murder, dude.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:50 am to
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increasing inpatient psych placement


Ha! Who is going to pay for that? Do we keep weapons available while we wait for a spot to open up at the local sanitarium (which no longer exist)?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75161 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:50 am to
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So you're also just one to say "frick it....free for all. Kids die, they die. In fact, just buy guns for all the mentally unstable. Freedom!!!"

I'll also point out that you, like your other Georgia fan buddy, never have shite to say when four or five folks get killed in the hood. You only care and get on your soapbox when it happens in "civilized" society, which is to say......you really don't care.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:51 am to
BOOM!!!!!
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:51 am to
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In fact, just buy guns for all the mentally unstable. Freedom!!!"


Where's the line? Should depressed people be able to own guns? Transgender? Bipolar? What level of mental illness means a person forfeits their right to defend themselves, and why would it be different than the required steps it takes to have someone forceably committed and/or lose the ability to vote?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:53 am to
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I'll also point out that you, like your other Georgia fan buddy, never have shite to say when four or five folks get killed in the hood. You only care and get on your soapbox when it happens in "civilized" society, which is to say......you really don't care.


Holy red herring.

I don't start ANY threads on guns. I only reply to those posted on this forum. And there have been plenty opened about the "hood" killings. Which, as a Chicago native, I am well aware of. Do you know which state is a 20 minute drive from Chicago? Do you know which state has the slackest gun laws in this entire country? Hmmm.... I wonder how all those guns are getting into Chicago?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:53 am to
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I'll also point out that you, like your other Georgia fan buddy, never have shite to say when four or five folks get killed in the hood. You only care and get on your soapbox when it happens in "civilized" society, which is to say......you really don't care.
Hell, they advocate for the quick release of those individuals so they can continue terrorizing the hood.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by GaPhan
Member since Nov 2017
423 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:55 am to
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On May 21, 2023, a Jackson County deputy looked into a tip from the FBI about a threat to shoot up a middle school. The threat was made through the instant messaging platform Discord, the incident report states. “We investigated that to the fullest. And if there is sufficient evidence for us to charge, we charge. In this case, at the time, we feel he could substantiate that allegation, and that’s why there wasn’t a charge at that time,” said Jackson County Sheriff Janis Mangum in an interview with Atlanta News First on Thursday. In 2023, deputies went to a home on River Mist Circle in Jefferson after checking a previous home where Gray used to live. Deputies spoke with Gray and his father. Gray told deputies that he used to have a Discord account but “deleted it prior to moving from their previous address” about three months before. The report later states Gray and his father moved in May. “Young people, they think they’re invincible. They can say and do anything they want to. And we have to hold them accountable, but we can only do what the law allows us to. And we will investigate these cases to the fullest, and if the charges apply, we’re going to charge,” Mangum said. A deputy spoke to Gray and his father once again. Gray told authorities he stopped using his Discord account because “too many people kept hacking his account and he was afraid someone would use his information for nefarious purposes.” The father and son also told the deputy they did not know the email address or speak Russian. “At this time, due to the inconsistent nature of the information received by the FBI, the allegation that Colt or (his father) is the user behind the Discord account that made the threat cannot be substantiated,” the report states.


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Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75161 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:56 am to
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I only reply to those posted on this forum.

Aww....come on now, that isn't true at all. You only reply to certain gun threads posted on this board.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:56 am to
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Where's the line? Should depressed people be able to own guns? Transgender? Bipolar? What level of mental illness means a person forfeits their right to defend themselves, and why would it be different than the required steps it takes to have someone forceably committed and/or lose the ability to vote?


I don't know, but I would imagine a fricking kid calling in threats to shoot up multiple schools would PROBABLY qualify as a pretty good fricking reason to remove weapons from the home and prevent any guardian from purchasing weapons.

Red Flag laws are truly something everyone except for the absolute nutjobs (on either side) should agree with. Go back and read all these school shooting threads...always mental illness involved.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75161 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:58 am to
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I wonder how all those guns are getting into Chicago?

You're really going to try to use Chicago for any gun crime talk? Really? Do some research on repeat offenders, catch and release, and how they rarely prosecute felon gun possession cases and get back to me.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:59 am to
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You're really going to try to use Chicago for any gun crime talk? Really? Do some research on repeat offenders, catch and release, and how they rarely prosecute felon gun possession cases and get back to me.


We're talking red flag laws here. Start a new thread on your "hood killings" if you want to talk about that.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75161 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:59 am to
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Red Flag laws are truly something everyone except for the absolute nutjobs (on either side) should agree with. Go back and read all these school shooting threads...always mental illness involved.

Are you for the extension of those red flag laws to family and friends?
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