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re: General Motors Won't Give Up On Sedans
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:09 pm to dewster
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:09 pm to dewster
If there’s an economic dislocation in the United States - an oil price spike, a hard recession that makes expensive trucks unaffordable - Ford’s dead. They have ZERO international sales to rely on and don’t even make cars anymore. They’ve painted themselves into a corner. For as long as American consumer tastes stay the same and the domestic economy keeps roaring, they’re fine. But they’re like a person with a brain aneurysm: one day it’s going to pop and bam, it’ll all be over.
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:10 pm to dewster
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Fuel efficient sedans become much more popular when gas prices climb.
Kind of the whole point of Ford and others exiting. The government has made it really hard to build sedans that hit price points and fuel efficiency.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:11 pm to Tear It Up
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I had an Impala rental car for an extended time due to work and I loved that car.
The upgraded interiors are actually very nice
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:17 pm to fightin tigers
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The government has made it really hard to build sedans that hit price points and fuel efficiency.
If that’s true, then why aren’t Toyota, Hyundai, VW, and GM abandoning the sedan market?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:19 pm to goofball
Actually the turbo Malibu runs pretty good. 14.9 seconds in the quarter mile and will run 150 miles an hour according to Road &track magazine. It also has 297 lbs of torque. Not bad for a 4 cylinder!
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:21 pm to fightin tigers
It’s not entirely that. They figured out that they could make minivans without sliders and call them SUVs, which don’t carry the minivan stigma. That, combined with fuel economy gains from engine and transmission technologies, killed the desire for cars since these minivans dressed up as trucks have higher seating positions than cars and now offer similar gas mileage.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:23 pm to Cycledude
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Actually the turbo Malibu runs pretty good. 14.9 seconds in the quarter mile and will run 150 miles an hour according to Road &track magazine
That’s definitely quick. Is that the 2.0 liter engine?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:23 pm to Hangover Haven
I have a Ford Fusion as a company car. It’s the worst POS I’ve ever driven in my life. That car is just terrible in every way.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:24 pm to Cooter Davenport
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They figured out that they could make minivans without sliders and call them SUVs, which don’t carry the minivan stigma
I’m still pissed that they turned the Explorer into a minivan.
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now offer similar gas mileage
Maybe similar to sedans from 30 years ago. The new Malibu and Accord can get 36 mpg on the highway. I don’t see a Ford Edge or Explorer touching that.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:25 pm to Cosmo
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Why would anybody get a Malibu when Camry and Accord are about the same price with much better resale value?
maybe because they love america and they arent trying to drag america down by buying cars made in communist china?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:29 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Compare that vulnerable as hell business model to Toyota, which sells cars, light trucks, and Hino heavy trucks from Santiago to Timbuktu or Honda, which is an international car player
people in other countries can't even afford cars
Like you really think people in africa have cars? They havent even invented they wheel yet Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:32 pm to Cycledude
Just googled the new ones.
I would seriously consider a 2.0L Turbo Malibu with that upgraded interior. The 2019 model looks really nice.
I would seriously consider a 2.0L Turbo Malibu with that upgraded interior. The 2019 model looks really nice.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:33 pm to dewster
quote:You want to know what your Mom really likes?
My parents have one of the newer Impalas and they seem to really like it.
I have pictures.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:52 pm to Cycledude
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Actually the turbo Malibu runs pretty good. 14.9 seconds in the quarter mile and will run 150 miles an hour according to Road &track magazine. It also has 297 lbs of torque. Not bad for a 4 cylinder!
Car and Driver clocked 14.7 in the 1/4 mile at 97mph and a top speed of 156 mph.
That top speed is especially unusual for that class of car. I had no idea that a Malibu could do that.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:16 pm to dewster
Was talking to a guy that commutes from BR to Lafayette and back every day. He picked up a Malibu in 2011 or 2012, and has put 280K crossing the Basin on it with no major issues. He said he just wants to see how long it will go at this point.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:20 pm to Cooter Davenport
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They hardly sell anything in Europe anymore
What happened to Ford of Europe?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:24 pm to dewster
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They are being short sighted by canceling sedans in the US.
I don’t know. They don’t want to keep making products that people don’t want.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 10:27 pm to goofball
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Toyota, Hyundai, VW
Hyundai and VW don’t sell trucks in the US.
Toyota has let the Tundra wither on the vine. It is an old outdated product that sells in much lower numbers than Ford, GM, and FCA.
The Tacoma is a strong seller.
Toyota also sells a shite-ton of SUV’s.
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