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re: General Motors Won't Give Up On Sedans
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:44 am to dewster
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:44 am to dewster
All I’ve driven is trucks for the last 18 years but I’ve relocated and now have to rent cars for work. I drove a fully loaded 2018 Chevy impala with a V6 for a couple months. The car was sweet and would haul arse. I’d defintely buy one.
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:44 am to Hangover Haven
Yea...the Stinger GT. Incredible ride, only downside is the badge. The only reason to even consider a Malibu is if they offer massive discounts, which they do all the time. ANY GM car should be the last choice on shop list. The depreciation on GM vehicles are horrendous.
*oh, & I do know a lot about cars.
*oh, & I do know a lot about cars.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:44 am to Ace Midnight
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The traditional 3-box sedan is probably on the way out. Mercedes and BMW might try to fight for the space at the high end. I think even Toyota/Lexus, which still makes a ton of sedans are moving to shed some models or at least replace them with 4-door coupes and move towards more crossovers.
It is striking that Honda is perceived as more of a truck/crossover company now than ever before.
The market has spoken.
The economy is at an all time high right now and unemployment is at an historic low. When the economy cools people will buy less suv's and more cars. I don't really see that as that complicated as it's pretty much a proven fact. Now, how long we will run this hot, it's hard to tell, but if GM is still making sedans when that happens they will outsell the other makers by a lot.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:45 am to AUCE05
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I still can't believe people will drop 50-60k on a truck.
Inflation is a real thing. A $20k truck from years ago would cost more today even if nothing else changed.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:46 am to dewster
The only difference between a sedan and crossover is the trunk/hatchback switch.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:47 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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When the economy cools people will buy less suv's and more cars. I don't really see that as that complicated as it's pretty much a proven fact
Link?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:49 am to NoBoBullDog
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The depreciation on GM vehicles are horrendous.
My wife has an '06 Tahoe with 115k miles in "good" condition that I can still get 5-7K for...On a trade in...
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:16 am to NoBoBullDog
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ANY GM car should be the last choice on shop list. The depreciation on GM vehicles are horrendous.
Corvette and GM trucks say "HI"
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:16 am to Hangover Haven
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My wife has an '06 Tahoe with 115k miles in "good" condition that I can still get 5-7K for...On a trade in...
Those things are beasts and that body style looks great.
My one complaint about the Tahoe from that era (and all American cars from back then) was the interior quality. The new ones are much nicer.
I don’t think General Motors put any real effort into their mid sized cars until the late 1990s (Intrigue, Regal, etc) and definitely not in their compact cars until 2008 or 2009 (Cruze, Volt, Verano, Sonic). They’ve always done well with trucks and large cars.
They usually focus on higher margin products and until the recession they may have actually lost money on compact cars.
For sedans, Ford will come out with a good car, like the 1986 Taurus or 2010 Fusion, then let the design age and not update it for way too long while the Japanese and GM will update more frequently. Their current sedan lineup needs a major update, but they are opting to abandoning it instead.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:18 am to Cosmo
I love my Malibu
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:24 am to member12
Buick also has the highest reliable domestic, came 3rd be hind Lexus and Porsche. Chevrolet beat Hyundai.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:44 am to Restomod
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Buick also has the highest reliable domestic, came 3rd be hind Lexus and Porsche. Chevrolet beat Hyundai.
Buick makes good, quiet cars. I wish they were more daring and creative with their designs. I like the new Regal GS, but the interior styling is really just okay. It’s an Opel designed car built in Germany and optimized for Europe. It shows in the relative blandness but overal high quality of the car.
Buick buyers tend to be pretty well off, older, loyal to both the brand and the dealers, and more likely to pay cash. They tend to have a better philosophy on maintenance than most buyers.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:50 am to member12
Without reading this whole thread, Ford is making huge mistake. Just like when they got rid of the ranger. Chevy and Toyota took the small truck business. Fusions sell like crazy up north
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:53 am to Mingo Was His NameO
You really should have ready your own link:
LINK
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”People change the cars they buy, but not all that much,” Busse explains. “The study tells us that they’re not going to abandon SUVs and pickup trucks entirely if gasoline prices go up.
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This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:15 am to CatsGoneWild
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Fusions sell like crazy up north
It's cheap and can be had with all wheel drive. It's a decent car for the snow belt.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:24 am to member12
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:29 am to dewster
I just wish they’d bring back rear wheel driven land yachts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:50 am to deltaland
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I just wish they’d bring back rear wheel driven land yachts
That is effectively what todays large SUVs and trucks are.
I would argue that Americans are returning to the norm of buying large, comfortable vehicles. The sports sedan had its day but that isn’t where America’s heart is for vehcles.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:54 am to deltaland
As the years go by, the crossovers and suv’s get more and more “carlike “. So in a way, sedans aren’t really going away.
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