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re: Gen contractor says the constr. economy is going to tank because his workers got deported

Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21347 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:15 pm to
The great thing about the American market is capitalism provides for very quick adaptation. If he can't figure out how to make money, many others will.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:17 pm to
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didn’t watch the video to see what he said, but it’s not that simple. Most larger GCs (which is where you get your best pricing) don’t self perform any of the architectural or structural trades (which is where your immigrant labor performs). They subcontract it for lower cost, less time and higher quality than they could do it themselves. So the company actually hiring illegal labor (if they do at all) is the architectural or structural trade subcontractor.

all of this is a classic example of being careful what you wish for. You may not be building a $10MM new headquarters building but the company that is building it is also providing jobs, and if that cost of construction increases relative to cost of self performing labor, and if the wheels of commerce in and around that activity slow down any further than they already have, you will feel the effects personally (eventually).

like most every complex problem, the causes are equally complex and the solutions thus can never be as simple as one would opine on a message board


Goodness I would love to just say "well unfortunately the company I hired was illegally doing xyz" and not have my arse handed to me with lawsuits.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3996 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:19 pm to
zero sympathy

“This isn’t what I voted for”

You fricking moron. (This isn’t directed at OP)
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Snickerdiddle
Prairieville
Member since May 2023
78 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:20 pm to
Don't want no crooked house built by illegals
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19178 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:20 pm to
Chances are OSHA is currently writing a standard for ICE worker safety on construction sites, LUDO, lock up drag out.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26145 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:22 pm to
No sympathy for you Mr Cowan. There are a lot of contractors doing it the right way and they are doing okay.
The Home Depot parking lot with shady characters should not be used as your employment office.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Don't want no crooked house built by illegals


There’s a new type of social influencer rising of men who go to new construction homes and show how bad the quality of work is
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18983 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Don't want no crooked house built by illegals

I'm not saying people should hire illegals, but they are great laborers, usually. Much better than whitey or others.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76583 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:24 pm to
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There’s a new type of social influencer rising of men who go to new construction homes and show how bad the quality of work is
Seen those. Some are insane.

I do recall one where he went into the crawlspace and it was the most beautiful job he had ever seen. Said he would live in there.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4612 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:24 pm to
So are others going to line up to do the work? Good they are getting illegals out, but are the ones working the high hanging fruit? You don’t see Americans lining up to do physical work.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46575 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:25 pm to
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So cut out middle men who get paid a lot to do nothing
I’m sorry I was going to respond to you and then it occurred to me that you are an idiot. Carry on
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36887 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Find people who do this work who will show up for work daily and can pass a drug test


Pay more
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76583 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:26 pm to
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So are others going to line up to do the work? Good they are getting illegals out, but are the ones working the high hanging fruit? You don’t see Americans lining up to do physical work.
Do you guys know what y’all sound like?

*Hint* Someone posted a quote above.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Pay more


It seems employers the last 20 years lost the concept that people will do anything to keep a good paying job
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60150 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Simple, hire people that are here legally.


So I agree with this 100%










In theory






But most people here legally that could do the work are either:

1. Working as an operator in a plant
2. Are lazy retards
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4612 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:30 pm to
What do we sound like? I said no issues but wondering who will do the work.
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
4033 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:31 pm to
Glad I was able to just get my roof replaced.

Not a single one of them workers was legal.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53960 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:32 pm to
Cheap labor
Of course he will miss that
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61276 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:32 pm to
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I’ve found legal immigration workers. T


This is the way. I would assume the government needs to cut some of the red tape and make this a little easier to do.

And part two is to cut off money to dead beats who should be out working
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62649 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:37 pm to
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"how am I going to hit my 90% margin if I have to pay my workers a livable wage and cover their insurance"


Those guys get paid fairly well, just not union scale wages. They get a livable wage.
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