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re: Gasser didn't testify in McKnight case; Guilty of manslaughter
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:51 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:51 pm to Jim Rockford
The fact he rolled down his window is like he was inviting him to do something.
Still though you don’t approach another car.
I think he gets manslaughter. Prob 8 years if I had to guess
Still though you don’t approach another car.
I think he gets manslaughter. Prob 8 years if I had to guess
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:54 pm to lsufan112001
20 years minimum for manslaughter.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:58 pm to Boomshockalocka
If this isn't Joe McKnight where does Gasser stand?
Likely impossible to answer because everyone's vision is skewed.
Likely impossible to answer because everyone's vision is skewed.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:59 pm to fightin tigers
Prosecutor Shannon Swaim told jurors that Gasser cannot legally say he was shooting in self-defense if he was going back and forth with McKnight. She pointed out Gasser told police that the Terrytown exit off the Crescent City Connection was his regular route home, not the Gen. De Gaulle exit he and McKnight took that day. “If he didn’t follow Mr. McKnight we wouldn’t be here today,” Swaim said.
I agree with this. You can’t start shite(or at the least escalate it) and then say oh I was scared this was self defense. If you were scared you don’t follow the guy.
I agree with this. You can’t start shite(or at the least escalate it) and then say oh I was scared this was self defense. If you were scared you don’t follow the guy.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:59 pm to fightin tigers
The deceased being joe McKnight doesn’t affect how I view it bc I didn’t have an opinion of McKnight. But the case drew my interest bc it was Joe McKnight.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
The jury weighing the case against Gasser consists of six white women, four white men, one Hispanic woman and one black woman. They began deliberating at 12:27 p.m., and at 1:13 p.m., they asked 24th Judicial District Court Judge Ellen Shirer Kovach a number of questions.
They requested photographs, calculations and measurements associated with the scene of the shooting. They also asked to be re-read the definitions of second-degree murder, manslaughter and negligent homicide.
It's hard to decipher from the question whether jurors were close to a decision at that point. Juries close to returning a verdict sometimes ask for the definitions of central legal principles, but those that are not close sometimes ask to see evidence such as crime scene photos.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:04 pm to cbdman
Uneducated guess, you'll see manslaughter and 25, like Cardell Hayes.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:05 pm to notiger1997
He tries so hard to look like he doesn’t try hard 
Lucas and that other guy took gaucho’s schtick, did it better, then shoved it up his arse
Lucas and that other guy took gaucho’s schtick, did it better, then shoved it up his arse
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:08 pm to tLSU
If they're asking about the lesser included, no acquittal for sure. I think LA still has the firearm enhancement.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:09 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Prosecutor Shannon Swaim told jurors that Gasser cannot legally say he was shooting in self-defense if he was going back and forth with McKnight. She pointed out Gasser told police that the Terrytown exit off the Crescent City Connection was his regular route home, not the Gen. De Gaulle exit he and McKnight took that day. “If he didn’t follow Mr. McKnight we wouldn’t be here today,” Swaim said.
I agree with this. You can’t start shite(or at the least escalate it) and then say oh I was scared this was self defense. If you were scared you don’t follow the guy.
yea I agree with this too
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:22 pm to Mr. Hangover
quote:
I agree with this. You can’t start shite(or at the least escalate it) and then say oh I was scared this was self defense. If you were scared you don’t follow the guy.
I don't necessarily agree with that. Situations change. McKnight got out of the car not thinking he was going to get shot, but suddenly found himself in a situation he did predict.
If the bullet misses JM and he is able to get back to his car would it be wrong to return fire when Gasser got out of his car? JM would then have felt his life was in danger.
(This isn't saying Gasser fired in self defense, just that following JM did not necessarily show Gasser had no fear when JM decided to escalate the encounter)
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:25 pm to slackster
quote:Go read the last 3 pages of the math thread.....
slackster
you will be thrilled with the recent revelation
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:27 pm to Mr. Hangover
Yea if someone gets robbed in a drug deal gone bad most would say well thats what happens when you go out looking to buy drugs. You brought it on yourself.
Gasser brought his situation upon himself too. He got caught up in a road rage incident that he could’ve avoided.
Gasser brought his situation upon himself too. He got caught up in a road rage incident that he could’ve avoided.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:31 pm to fightin tigers
I think Gasser probably helped escalate the incident but if McKnight was touching the inside of Gassers vehicle on either the drivers or passengers door, regardless of a ladder, while acting in an aggressive or violent way then I have to say this was self defense. I believe Gasser is probably a POS but in this instance he should walk.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:36 pm to OGJangalang
It will come down to who has the strongest personalities in that jury room. There will be people on both sides. Who is gonna be willing to compromise on manslaughter and who won’t. Who wants to get back to their family v who is unwilling to budge. It’s friday afternoom and those people have been in there all week I say manslaughter.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:36 pm to OGJangalang
quote:lets define this...
while acting in an aggressive or violent way
McKnight was unarmed, so no weapon was shown. The passenger seat had the ladder so that precludes JM from trying to force his way in. If either one of the two was me, I'd expect a heated conversation maybe, but not much more.
Bottom line, this didn't have to happen
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:39 pm to OGJangalang
quote:
I think Gasser probably helped escalate the incident but if McKnight was touching the inside of Gassers vehicle on either the drivers or passengers door, regardless of a ladder, while acting in an aggressive or violent way then I have to say this was self defense. I believe Gasser is probably a POS but in this instance he should walk.
It's not as clear cut as that though. Gasser's own statement pretty much refute the whole entering the car angle.
One thing I noticed is the prosecution mentioning Gasser admitted to pulling his gun out somewhere on Degaulle. That's almost 2 miles away from the shooting. It was not pulled out in the heat of the moment. That's pretty damning in itself.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:40 pm to Boomshockalocka
Donald Chick Foret agrees
If there was a betting line in Las Vegas, the "favorite" in these types of high profile cases would always be the compromise responsive verdict of guilty of a lesser charge. Just as in the Cardell Hayes case.
If there was a betting line in Las Vegas, the "favorite" in these types of high profile cases would always be the compromise responsive verdict of guilty of a lesser charge. Just as in the Cardell Hayes case.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:56 pm to MightyYat
quote:
One thing I noticed is the prosecution mentioning Gasser admitted to pulling his gun out somewhere on Degaulle. That's almost 2 miles away from the shooting. It was not pulled out in the heat of the moment. That's pretty damning in itself.
I would have hammered this home if I’m the prosecutor.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:57 pm to MightyYat
quote:Damn.
One thing I noticed is the prosecution mentioning Gasser admitted to pulling his gun out somewhere on Degaulle. That's almost 2 miles away from the shooting.
He knew he was going to Kill JM the whole time
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