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Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:48 pm to Salmon
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Still don't know why you wouldn't get it, just in case you changed fields or one day needed it
That's why I decided to go ahead and get it. Company is paying for it and I don't see how it could negatively affect my future career.
Most of the engineers where I work design on AutoCAD. I made it very clear that I do not know AutoCAD and have no intention of learning it.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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A lot of engineering fields don't require licensure to move up.
Maybe so. Actually, I agree, many do not, but in defense of Salmon's comment, he quoted someone who graduated in CE. In that particular field, having a degree with no license is one step above being a draftsman.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:57 pm to Salmon
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Still don't know why you wouldn't get it, just in case you changed fields or one day needed it.
~$500 and most of a day to take the test. Then you have to take 30 hours of continuing education every 2 years. So it may not make sense for engineers whose employer doesn't really require it.
Plenty of job listings looking for a PE will also say "or the ability to pass the PE within X months," so it's not a big deal if someone wants to wait until they apply for a job needing a PE to take the exam.
As for the FE, I wouldn't spend a significant amount of money taking it. As several have mentioned, taking a few of those practice tests + understanding where to look for things in the formula book should be enough to pass. I would definitely recommend re-teaching yourself the Engineering Economics portion. That's 5-7 easy answers, but if you're not familiar with how to use the tables it could take you a long time.
I'd disagree with the sentiment that you can get EVERYTHING from the book. I never took a communications class in college, gave the formulas a lookover before the FE, and probably missed all of those questions on the test.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:06 pm to GumboDave
I recommend a pre-game Bloody Mary for luck.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:09 pm to Boudreaux35
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Maybe so. Actually, I agree, many do not, but in defense of Salmon's comment, he quoted someone who graduated in CE. In that particular field, having a degree with no license is one step above being a draftsman.
I graduated CE and had job offers that wouldn't have required it if I didn't want it to move up. All depends on what you want to do.
Of course I highly recommend it, but it's not like you can't have a good job with that degree without it.
ETA: Nice to see the poor soul that couldn't pass the FE is still downvoting me.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:15 pm to LNCHBOX
An EE doesn't really need the PE to move up unless you are working in Power.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:16 pm to Boudreaux35
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In that particular field, having a degree with no license is one step above being a draftsman.
That is not true, at least in my case. As a project manager, I typically manage what our engineers do.
I have seen instances where being an EI or PE has actually help people back in their career. To make more money it is necessary to transition to Project Management.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:21 pm to GumboDave
I took the FE (ChE) about 3 weeks ago and passed. Do not kill yourself studying, it is very basic. Buy one of the NCEES practice exams for $50 and study that and you should be fine, unless you feel you are so far removed from formal schooling that you'll need a more lengthy refresher. Most of those review manuals' prep questions are much harder than any exam question would be.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:24 pm to GumboDave
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That is not true, at least in my case. As a project manager, I typically manage what our engineers do.
I have seen instances where being an EI or PE has actually help people back in their career. To make more money it is necessary to transition to Project Management.
Yea its not true at all. Sure if you want to go be a design civil then sure its needed. But people like me who went into management, wtf do I need it for? I manage the engineers and manage the work they want us to do. Now am I going to take it eventually? Sure but I honestly have no need for it.
I am good at managing things, not designing and honestly almost every PE I know in Civil is a dumb shite when it comes to constructability or any single thing in the field.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:33 pm to lsu777
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I am good at managing things, not designing and honestly almost every PE I know in Civil is a dumb shite when it comes to constructability or any single thing in the field.
Then why do you continue to hire dumb shites?Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:41 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Depends heavily on the field. I'm chemical and have never heard a single word about the FE or PE since graduation. I'm sure it helps design guys to have their PE, but that's a very niche field within ChE.
The test is easy while still in school. Knowledge is nice and fresh.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 5:18 pm to LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 5:21 pm to GumboDave
this is great info
Posted on 1/25/17 at 5:52 pm to GumboDave
This is for ME, but should be similar to CE:
Get the Lindeburg practice problems and study manuals. Download the reference manual. Learn how to CTRL + F and find what you need. The test doesn't jump around during sections. It starts and finishes a section, and then moves to the next.
I fricked up my first try and didn't answer the last 20 problems because I got angry at this diva who was reading every question in a speaking voice, and also saying what she was thinking. Mf'ers wouldn't kick her out. The non-engineering stuff was hardest for me.
But work the practice problems and take practice tests. It is actually relatively easy
Eta: Get a TI-36x Pro and learn how to use it very well. You can solve almost all of the math problems without lifting a pencil
Get the Lindeburg practice problems and study manuals. Download the reference manual. Learn how to CTRL + F and find what you need. The test doesn't jump around during sections. It starts and finishes a section, and then moves to the next.
I fricked up my first try and didn't answer the last 20 problems because I got angry at this diva who was reading every question in a speaking voice, and also saying what she was thinking. Mf'ers wouldn't kick her out. The non-engineering stuff was hardest for me.
But work the practice problems and take practice tests. It is actually relatively easy
Eta: Get a TI-36x Pro and learn how to use it very well. You can solve almost all of the math problems without lifting a pencil
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:34 pm to civiltiger07
I don't manage the engineers directly. They are out of our Baltimore office, all dumb foreigners. But I deal with multiple civils in the plants and most are just dumb, same with almost all of the mechanicals I deal with.
The ones that are not scared to get out the office and go walk jobs and ask questions to learn usually move up fast or end up leaving for greener pastures. Hey but they can all do advanced calc with the best of them.
The ones that are not scared to get out the office and go walk jobs and ask questions to learn usually move up fast or end up leaving for greener pastures. Hey but they can all do advanced calc with the best of them.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:58 pm to GumboDave
You are not a CE in my office without the stamp.
No offense but just complete the circle and get it done. Otherwise, you are sending a bad signal that you can't pass the test.
No offense but just complete the circle and get it done. Otherwise, you are sending a bad signal that you can't pass the test.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:01 pm to GumboDave
They do training sessions at Dooley's
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:49 pm to Cdonaldson27
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Otherwise, you are sending a bad signal that you can't pass the test
All depends on the industry and/or specific degree. It hasn't even remotely come up as a necessity for me. A few have it because they personally wanted to achieve it, but never stamp anything. Talked about getting it with them, but it was purely to have in my back pocket for a major career change. Not at all for a use in my current career path. Our design engineers may require it, but that's very few of the people we have with engineering degrees and no one is knocking down the door for that job (lower pay and relatively boring in most's opinion). Me getting it would purely be to make my email signature more impressive (I'm not opposed to that)
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