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re: From an 11th Grade Teacher at a good suburban high school
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:40 pm to shawnlsu
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:40 pm to shawnlsu
Why were you "walking" through a magnet school?
If this truly happened you should have stopped and stuck your head in the door and said "WRONG. Don't ever believe that nonsense" and kept on walking.
If this truly happened you should have stopped and stuck your head in the door and said "WRONG. Don't ever believe that nonsense" and kept on walking.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:43 pm to anc
quote:Unless the students have a specific learning disability in area of reading or some other global disability that impacts cognitive functioning, then students with average abilities should be able to read. There will be exceptions, but this is an inaccurate general statement.
Average students with average abilities can fervently text away, but they cannot read."
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:19 pm to Dick Leverage
I have cabling crews working in EBR schools for the next year or so. I'm convinced that what he was lecturing on was approved material from EBRPSS. I also don't live in that parish so I don't have anyone to complain to. Even if I did, have you seen the makeup of the EBR school board? Pretty sure they are the ones that came up with that curriculum.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:22 pm to anc
Is it bad that I think this is funny all the while my Kindergartener reads at about a 4th grade level already.
Parents are solely to blame. No one else
Parents are solely to blame. No one else
Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:25 pm to OysterPoBoy
there is a difference between "reading" and "reading comprehension"
Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:27 pm to Prominentwon
quote:I doubt that.
while my Kindergartener reads at about a 4th grade level already.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:28 pm to anc
quote:
"Your children can’t read. We are in the midst of one of the greatest literacy crises ever encountered, and we are fighting an uphill battle. Every day I experience firsthand what it means to be illiterate in a high school classroom. At best it means sleeping away a unit; at worst it means depression or aggression. Average students with average abilities can fervently text away, but they cannot read."
TL:CR
lol jk l8tr
Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:28 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:
Also, you're a teacher. How bout doing some teaching instead of posting on Facebook about how tough your job is.
By the time a kid is in the 11th grade they should know how to read. At this point the specialty is understanding heavy material and being able to find meaning in the text.
11th grade teachers do not know how to teach reading because that was not part of their college curriculum.
Would you expect a college professor to teach you to read or how to add and subtract? No... You are already expected to know the fundamentals.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:14 pm to tigersaint26
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My kids have to get a certain # of AR points each week by Monday when they get home from school. If they don't then no technology (TV, computer, Tablets) for the week. They have a poster up on the hall closet by their bedroom doors where they can see how many points they need by which dates.
Oh my God, AR. I freaking hate AR. It does no good.
My kid is in 8th grade and I have fought the AR battle with him for years. He hates reading. All AR has done is caused him to loathe having to do anything with reading. Now here is the irony, he rates pretty high in his reading levels, often beyond his grade by a year, yet this kid has a hard time formulating and articulating his thoughts. He also lacks any sort of creative skills. Ask him to write a paper regarding a subject, forget about it, dumber than a box of rocks.
How can a kid who rates out high in his testing and gets good grades be so poor at some of the basic skills surrounding creativity, thought articulation, and problem solving? I suspect the standards have been dropping for years and he is the new normal.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:17 pm to SoDakHawk
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How can a kid who rates out high in his testing and gets good grades be so poor at some of the basic skills surrounding creativity, thought articulation, and problem solving? I suspect the standards have been dropping for years and he is the new normal.
Some people are just like that. Just like we're not all built the same physically, we're not all built the same cognitively.
If he can read at a high level, than that's a great start. He's in 8th grade. Sometimes other cognitive skills take time to develop.
I know that I'm not a very creative person, but I consider myself better than average in regards to other cognitive skills.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:34 pm to SoDakHawk
quote:You're talking about different cognitive processes though. There are plenty of engineers, mathematicians, etc., that can solve near-impossible problems yet can hardly communicate.
How can a kid who rates out high in his testing and gets good grades be so poor at some of the basic skills surrounding creativity, thought articulation, and problem solving? I suspect the standards have been dropping for years and he is the new normal
There are at least 7 broad cognitive processing abilities that have been empirically-validated (CHC theory), and there are theoretically more that are harder to measure. Even within those broad abilities are many narrow abilities.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:36 pm to EA6B
quote:maybe their kids are just smarter... you need to push kids like that... not hold back on them just because other groups can't keep up
This is common in private schools as a way to impress parents, "our students are already doing XYZ in the 5th grade, etc." There are appropriate ages to teach different material, trying to present it earlier than needed just results in students struggling with something that would seem easy only a year later. Another question that should be asked is if what material are they not doing to make time for something that is not usually part of a elementary school curriculum.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:57 pm to anc
Ned 2 wrk boz so leme no sum off paper n redy 2 gitit fo real dis time
-A text I got this morning from one of my hands. That means Darryl is ready to go to work. He's been released from probation and can travel out of the state. Unlike previous failed attempts at making a reliable worker, he now feels he is ready for his position. I haven't responded yet, and probably won't. I am however getting well versed at speaking text jive
-A text I got this morning from one of my hands. That means Darryl is ready to go to work. He's been released from probation and can travel out of the state. Unlike previous failed attempts at making a reliable worker, he now feels he is ready for his position. I haven't responded yet, and probably won't. I am however getting well versed at speaking text jive
Posted on 10/8/15 at 7:51 pm to SoDakHawk
I'll just post this here. We start early when screwing up in regards to education. Learning at their own pace.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 7:55 pm to fr33manator
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How is one able to write without being able to read?
Whre u at?
Dats whas up!
Like that.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:00 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:How ironic is it that this question is posed on the OT board of TD.
greatest literacy crises ever encountered?
Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:22 pm to fr33manator
quote:
How is one able to write without being able to read?
My son enjoys reading and tests above his grade level. However, my daughter has a condition that stunted her mental and physical growth for several years (Hashimoto's Disease) and she does not do well. It took us three years to teach her the alphabet. She relies on auto-complete and emoticons. If it suggests a word she'll just assume it must be the right word. It makes for some truly bizarre texts.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:50 pm to buckeye_vol
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students with average abilities should be able to read.
Should be able to and actually are able to are very different.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:53 pm to The Eric
quote:actually there is no reading without comprehension. To be a fluent reader, comprehension is essential. Decoding words is not reading, just like writing random strings of words is not writing.
there is a difference between "reading" and "reading comprehension"
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