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re: From an 11th Grade Teacher at a good suburban high school

Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:46 am to
Tired of u old farts yellin "Get of my lawn" just b/c u r 2 old to get what young peeps r sayin

u r on da rong sid of histry
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:47 am to
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you might try 20 minutes of video games for an hour of reading...


I don't want to be oppressive.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18554 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:48 am to
I don't know about those specific kids or what's really going on around the country.

But as someone who is an instructor at a university in the South, I can say that the incoming freshman are just fine and are honestly a bit ahead of where I would have expected them to be after having been a high school English teacher.

There are some issues, sure. But isn't that why I have a job?

And I do question what it means nowadays to read at grade level. What are they testing for? Who is designing the test? Who is taking the test? Has the current generation of students changed during this digital age to the point that what was tested and what was considered proper reading levels of yesteryear no longer applies?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72392 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:54 am to
Scruffy isn't a teacher so he isn't in the system, but it does seem that there is a major reading and writing crisis going on.

It started back when Scruffy was in high school. Computers, texting, all of that has decreased the emphasis we used to put on reading and writing.

Also, those areas aren't seen as being as integral as the sciences and math so it isn't focused on as often.

Sad state of affairs.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 9:55 am
Posted by putt1058
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
842 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:55 am to
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And colleges will continue to dumb down their curriculums while raising tuition so that the dumb kids can get in so that they keep hitting their money and enrollment numbers.


I taught Process Technology locally for a while. The school I taught at (and the department in particular) recognized the challenges associated with illiteracy and REFUSED TO DUMB DOWN. Look, you either know the material or you didn't.....you got the grade that you earned. Want a better grade? EARN IT!
Posted by hillcountrywanderer
Buda, TX
Member since Jul 2014
529 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:12 am to
My neice (whom I am in the process of adopting), can do math at a 7th grade level and reads at a 8th grade level. She's only 8 and we put her in a montessori magnet school and her levels have steadily increased.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:15 am to
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Sad state of affairs.


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Posted by Boagni Swamp
Right next door to No Face
Member since Oct 2015
912 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:18 am to
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My neice (whom I am in the process of adopting),


Must be a story here.

(FYI: You niece would likely tell you that it is "niece" and not "neice.")
Posted by Boagni Swamp
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Member since Oct 2015
912 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:19 am to
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Computers, texting, all of that has decreased the emphasis we used to put on reading, writing, and critical thinking.


FIFY
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26708 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:25 am to
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The 4th third is devoted to math, though.



You, sir, are on a roll today.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:38 am to
I teach in a high school and the amount of kids who can't read is astounding. Yes, they can technically read but are they functionally literate? If so they are just barely. Their reading comprehension is damn near zero. Of course, this is not all kids but it is an alarming number. I never expected to see so many when I started teaching high schoolers.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36518 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:41 am to
Is don Quixote still worth like 84 AR points? Was the white whale for us growing up.

Harry potter = AR goldmine
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:42 am to
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If they can't read how to the know what to text?


idk;idc;wyd;wanna fuk?
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4013 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:33 am to
They are texting in Ebonic and using lots of emoticons
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:57 am to
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This is why I live in Katy, TX, my kids are doing science labs and learning how to do research and structure a research paper in elementary school.


This is common in private schools as a way to impress parents, "our students are already doing XYZ in the 5th grade, etc." There are appropriate ages to teach different material, trying to present it earlier than needed just results in students struggling with something that would seem easy only a year later. Another question that should be asked is if what material are they not doing to make time for something that is not usually part of a elementary school curriculum.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:03 pm to
You might have done better to require an hour of reading time for half an hour of video games making the reading a higher priority than the video games. This just sounds like video games are still a greater priority than reading. But at least you have rules and that is better than the majority of parents these days.

Not directed to you but why has our society strayed so far from demanding accountability from our children? In my house, my children don't play video games or even get to have their phones in their possession until their daily obligations are fulfilled, it does not require yelling, screaming at or spanking ones kids. Just simple firmness regarding the rules. Bargaining with one to fulfill their responsibilities is a bad lesson , IMO, to engrain in a kids mind. The "I will fulfill my obligation......IF........you give me _______" develops manipulative children who turn into entitled teens and adults.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136934 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:16 pm to
problem goes back to 1907 and the popular School Days song

School days, school days
Dear old Golden Rule days'
Reading and 'riting and 'rithmetic
Taught to the tune of the hick'ry stick
You were my queen in calico
I was your bashful, barefoot beau
And you wrote on my slate, "I Love You, Joe"
When we were a couple o' kids

'riting?
'rithmetic?

shameful
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:16 pm to
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the last third is spent memorizing every incident that occurred during the civil rights movement.



While walking through a "magnet" school here in BR the other day I overheard a teacher lecturing to his class. He was telling them that anyone that thinks America is any better than any other country or that its people are any better than any other country is 100% racist. I wasn't sure whether to or
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:18 pm to
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fervently


Googling


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Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:20 pm to
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While walking through a "magnet" school here in BR the other day I overheard a teacher lecturing to his class. He was telling them that anyone that thinks America is any better than any other country or that its people are any better than any other country is 100% racist. I wasn't sure


You should have complained to the principal and/your school board member.
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